Lets talk about Jill Stein

djchameleon · 09-28-2016, 12:18 AM

Isborn is Briks.....Briks is Isborn.....

Isborn is a man!!!

Isbjørn · 09-28-2016, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

Isborn is Briks.....Briks is Isborn.....

Isborn is a man!!!

What's going on here

djchameleon · 09-28-2016, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Isbjørn

What's going on here

Isbjørn · 09-28-2016, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Ki

That's absolutely not true.

Why not? Not even progressive reforms come without a pressure from below. Bernie Sanders is no revolutionary, but the only reason he was able to win support was because people in America were already sick of economic inequality, political corruption, starvation wages and crippling debt. Sanders' promise to punish the bankers responsible for the financial crisis of 2008 wasn't something he came up with himself, it had been written on the signs of Occupy Wall Street protestors years earlier. Also, politicians have a tendency to get assimilated by the establishment once they're elected. The Norwegian Labor Party gained popularity based on their revolutionary socialist platform. But when they came in position, their revolutionary edge was gradually blunted, and today they're the most ardent supporters of capitalism and the general status-quo. This applies to most European social-democratic parties.

As Billy Bragg put it in his version of "The Internationale": "although they offer us concessions, change will not come from above".

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As far as I'm concerned, in the short amount of time that Bernie was active, he changed a lot of peoples minds about politics and got them to believe in something they didn't believe in before.

This is true. Also, he re-popularized the word "socialism", though in the most vulgar meaning of the word. I just hope the class-consciousness, anti-elitism and political disillusion that have arisen lately develop from electoral politics and obedience (as is the case when Bernie Sanders endorses Hillary Clinton) to a mass movement based on direct action and a struggle for actual socialism.

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Wasn't Briks the one chugging Bernie's cock to the short and curlies?

Things happened.

The Batlord · 09-28-2016, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Isbjørn

Why not? Not even progressive reforms come without a pressure from below. Bernie Sanders is no revolutionary, but the only reason he was able to win support was because people in America were already sick of economic inequality, political corruption, starvation wages and crippling debt. Sanders' promise to punish the bankers responsible for the financial crisis of 2008 wasn't something he came up with himself, it had been written on the signs of Occupy Wall Street protestors years earlier. Also, politicians have a tendency to get assimilated by the establishment once they're elected. The Norwegian Labor Party gained popularity based on their revolutionary socialist platform. But when they came in position, their revolutionary edge was gradually blunted, and today they're the most ardent supporters of capitalism and the general status-quo. This applies to most European social-democratic parties.

As Billy Bragg put it in his version of "The Internationale": "although they offer us concessions, change will not come from above".

This is true. Also, he re-popularized the word "socialism", though in the most vulgar meaning of the word. I just hope the class-consciousness, anti-elitism and political disillusion that have arisen lately develop from electoral politics and obedience (as is the case when Bernie Sanders endorses Hillary Clinton) to a mass movement based on direct action and a struggle for actual socialism.

Things happened.

You're gonna ****ing love college, you silly twat.

djchameleon · 09-28-2016, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Isbjørn

This is true. Also, he re-popularized the word "socialism", though in the most vulgar meaning of the word. I just hope the class-consciousness, anti-elitism and political disillusion that have arisen lately develop from electoral politics and obedience (as is the case when Bernie Sanders endorses Hillary Clinton) to a mass movement based on direct action and a struggle for actual socialism.

He has created a mass movement but it isn't reported on. The same people that were hardcore Bernie fans are not just sitting idly by.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/29/op...s-on.html?_r=0

There is one story of a woman that has decided to run for office in her local area and push forth the same ideals.

hip hop bunny hop · 09-28-2016, 01:32 PM

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His revolution wasn't that much of a failure. It has pushed many people to join the public arena and run for office seats locally actually.

Well that's a low standard; here I thought we could judge him a failure because he was so thoroughly defeated in the primary and none of his supporters were involved in any consequential primary upsets.

Mindy · 10-02-2016, 07:26 AM

2nd female president

~~[MERIT]~~ · 12-15-2016, 12:01 AM

Before and during the 2016 U.S. Presidential election, Jill Stein was a formidable third party candidate who wielded viable solutions to many of this country's problems. She had my respect. But AFTER the election, she became a sell-out shill for GEORGE SOROS with her recount bullsh*t. She has even been disavowed by her own party because of her actions. She was paid a healthy sum to try to steal the election after-the-fact, and she failed.

djchameleon · 12-15-2016, 05:38 AM

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Before and during the 2016 U.S. Presidential election, Jill Stein was a formidable third party candidate who wielded viable solutions to many of this country's problems. She had my respect. But AFTER the election, she became a sell-out shill for GEORGE SOROS with her recount bullsh*t. She has even been disavowed by her own party because of her actions. She was paid a healthy sum to try to steal the election after-the-fact, and she failed.

Solutions that she couldn't full explain when asked to further explain. It was like she was reading off bullet points but did no research into how it would work practically.

Also her album sucks ass.

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~~[MERIT]~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Missouri, USA Posts: 4,814	Before and during the 2016 U.S. Presidential election, Jill Stein was a formidable third party candidate who wielded viable solutions to many of this country's problems. She had my respect. But AFTER the election, she became a sell-out shill for GEORGE SOROS with her recount bullsh*t. She has even been disavowed by her own party because of her actions. She was paid a healthy sum to try to steal the election after-the-fact, and she failed.