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Old 09-30-2016, 02:49 PM   #211 (permalink)
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You don't know much about imperialism don't you.
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Old 09-30-2016, 02:51 PM   #212 (permalink)
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Except the foreign invaders taxed us. And claimed ownership.
That's... that's what invaders do... You know that, right? And how would that make it a revolution?
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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Old 09-30-2016, 02:53 PM   #213 (permalink)
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That's... that's what invaders do... You know that, right? And how would that make it a revolution?
What's a revolution to you?
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Old 09-30-2016, 02:53 PM   #214 (permalink)
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That's... that's what invaders do... You know that, right? And how would that make it a revolution?
Revolution:

a forcible overthrow of a government or social order in favor of a new system.

Sounds like American revolution.
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Old 09-30-2016, 02:56 PM   #215 (permalink)
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Internal conflict between a government and at least one rebel faction with a set of political ideals and goals, with the end result of a rebel victory being a sweeping or complete change in the basic institutions in that country.
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Old 09-30-2016, 02:58 PM   #216 (permalink)
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Revolution:

a forcible overthrow of a government or social order in favor of a new system.

Sounds like American revolution.
Americans already had governments and a group of leaders who were more or less intact when the "revolution" was over. The only real difference (at least until the Articles of Confederation and Constitution) was that we didn't have to answer to the King of England or colonial governors.
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Old 09-30-2016, 03:07 PM   #217 (permalink)
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Americans already had governments and a group of leaders who were more or less intact when the "revolution" was over. The only real difference (at least until the Articles of Confederation and Constitution) was that we didn't have to answer to the King of England or colonial governors.
Except the people in charge after the revolution were temporary while they formed a new government. The British were the government and were overthrown. Then the colonials placed a new government in once they had it organized.
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Old 09-30-2016, 03:21 PM   #218 (permalink)
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Except the people in charge after the revolution were temporary while they formed a new government. The British were the government and were overthrown. Then the colonials placed a new government in once they had it organized.
Yeah, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, and John Hancock were totally British.
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Old 09-30-2016, 03:24 PM   #219 (permalink)
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Yeah, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, and John Hancock were totally British.
Except those people all left the government to fight against it because they were tired of the rules and laws being placed by the, wait for it, British government!
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Old 09-30-2016, 03:31 PM   #220 (permalink)
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Except those people all left the government to fight against it because they were tired of the rules and laws being placed by the, wait for it, British government!
... To set up the Continental Congress, making them still America's leaders.
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