Let's Talk About Gary Johnson

**Frownland** · 09-12-2016, 01:07 PM

There are differences, yes. For instance, OJ was a black man, Hillary is a white woman.

However, both committed the crimes in question, and they were absolved of those crimes by legal institutions.

**Janszoon** · 09-12-2016, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

There are differences, yes. For instance, OJ was a black man, Hillary is a white woman.

However, both committed the crimes in question, and they were absolved of those crimes by legal institutions.

There was no crime in Clinton's case.

**Frownland** · 09-12-2016, 01:17 PM

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There was no crime in Clinton's case.

Yes there was, it was a textbook case of gross negligence. Just because the FBI said it's not does not make it so, which is what I've been getting at for a while now.

What specifically about the case do you think supports the FBI's stance?

**Janszoon** · 09-12-2016, 01:30 PM

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Yes there was, it was a textbook case of gross negligence. Just because the FBI said it's not does not make it so, which is what I've been getting at for a while now.

Actually, legally it does make it so.

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What specifically about the case do you think supports the FBI's stance?

The fact that it was investigated by people who are actual subject matter experts, which I am not. As far as I can see there's no reason to doubt their conclusion.

What specifically makes you think it's a "textbook case of gross negligence"?

**Frownland** · 09-12-2016, 01:36 PM

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Actually, legally it does make it so.

Speaking from a perspective of facts, the FBI's ruling does not change anything.

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What specifically makes you think it's a "textbook case of gross negligence"?

Gross negligence

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carelessness in reckless disregard for the safety or lives of others, which is so great it appears to be a conscious violation of other people's rights to safety. If one has borrowed or contracted to take care of another's property, then gross negligence is the failure to actively take the care one would of his/her own property. If gross negligence is found by the trier of fact (judge or jury), it can result in the award of punitive damages on top of general and special damages.

Threatening national security threatens the safety of Americans and the fact that she used a private email server suggests that she was conscious of what she was doing.

**Janszoon** · 09-12-2016, 01:45 PM

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Speaking from a perspective of facts, the FBI's ruling does not change anything.

Speaking from a perspective of facts, it's not a ruling since it didn't come a judge.

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Gross negligence

Threatening national security threatens the safety of Americans and the fact that she used a private email server suggests that she was conscious of what she was doing.

Why do you feel that the Frownland Google Search Taskforce investigation into this matter is more credible than the FBI?

**Frownland** · 09-12-2016, 01:49 PM

I trust myself.

Isbjørn · 09-25-2016, 08:25 AM

Could someone please explain briefly what's appealing about Gary Johnson? What is he going to do for American workers?

**Goofle** · 09-25-2016, 10:04 AM

There's not much appealing about him as a candidate, more the principles of the party he's representing. Smaller government, less regulation, free markets, non-intervention etc. I think the ones who support him or believe in Libertarian values aren't looking for the government to help American workers all that much in the first place.

Isbjørn · 09-25-2016, 10:21 AM

Less regulation and "freer" markets may be good for corporations and the few people who own them, but will just make the lives of American workers more insecure, especially the poorer ones. The solution isn't "smaller" government, nor is it "bigger" government. The solution is democracy in all spheres of society, including the economy, and a government that truly represents the interests of the majority, i.e. the working class. Gary Johnson may be an interesting phenomenon in that he's a third party candidate, but I see no reason to vote for him rather than, say, Jill Stein.

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Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	There are differences, yes. For instance, OJ was a black man, Hillary is a white woman. However, both committed the crimes in question, and they were absolved of those crimes by legal institutions. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

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Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	I trust myself. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

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Isbjørn cooler commie than elph Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: In a hole, help Posts: 2,811	Could someone please explain briefly what's appealing about Gary Johnson? What is he going to do for American workers? __________________ fast(ml) Hear me play the guitar Look, mom! I got a journal

09-25-2016, 10:21 AM	#110 (permalink)
Isbjørn cooler commie than elph Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: In a hole, help Posts: 2,811	Less regulation and "freer" markets may be good for corporations and the few people who own them, but will just make the lives of American workers more insecure, especially the poorer ones. The solution isn't "smaller" government, nor is it "bigger" government. The solution is democracy in all spheres of society, including the economy, and a government that truly represents the interests of the majority, i.e. the working class. Gary Johnson may be an interesting phenomenon in that he's a third party candidate, but I see no reason to vote for him rather than, say, Jill Stein. __________________ fast(ml) Hear me play the guitar Look, mom! I got a journal