Flat Earth Uprising?

**Frownland** · 06-15-2016, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by P A N

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-Flat Earthers don't claim to know what's in space. We think it's a clock, and that the moon is self-luminous. What causes eclipses is moot, as it's not relevant to debunk the globe. To think it is means your brain is working on the basis of a fallacy of division.

-Flat Earthers - usually - believe the Earth is the center of creation, that the sky revolves around it. What's up there is fairly mysterious to us, which we're okay with, but we tend not believe they are infinitely burning balls of fire.

-Gravity does not exist. It is the most prevalent theory of course, but there is no evidence of its existence beyond the "proof" that we're not falling off a ball. Coincidentally, we need gravity to not fall off the ball. if this strikes you as odd, just try to find proof of gravity. Instead of gravity (which we only need to stick to the ball), Flat Earthers believe in electromagnetism and density, which are very easily testable and exist everywhere. There is up and down, in the Flat Earth Theory, and it's as simple as that.

-Yes. Antarctica is an ice wall which encircles the Earth. There is no south pole. There is a north pole at the center of the map, which makes south appear to exist as the opposite of it. Researching any public expeditions to the south pole will show that there is a "Ceremonial Pole" where you can go and take a selfie. You can't find the true south pole, and they claim this is because the Earth is wobbling.

-Also yes. All photos of a spherical Earth are fake. All independent balloons (reaching altitudes of 120,000feet) show a flat horizon.

Decent questions.

In short, if the science doesn't match what you believe, go ahead and make up some of your own.

P A N · 06-15-2016, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

I didn't imply all over the planet. The next total eclipse in the US will be on 8/21 and will be visible at varying degrees from Oregon all the way to Georgia. What causes the eclipse and why can it be seen by so many?

Just to be clear, I am 100% humoring you and don't buy a single shred of anything you've posted so far. How about explaining the photos from the space missions and the thousands of satellites from dozens of countries all over the planet?

"Space may be the final frontier, but it was made in a Hollywood basement."
-Anthony Kiedis

Say, hypothetically, that the Earth could be flat. That would imply a conspiracy, right? And that conspiracy would have to include an effort so great, so intelligent, so solid as to go unnoticed by the vast majority of people, right? I watched The Martian (movie, i liked it), and man oh man, were those antigravity scenes ever satifying. So were the scenes of Mars. Looked just like it! haha. Needless to say, it's not impossible to fake space. We were raised on images of it. But images are just images.

**Frownland** · 06-15-2016, 09:54 PM

You're right, everything might be a lie and that thousands of people are lying to you to make you believe something that doesn't benefit them in any way. Or, the facts are actually facts. Claiming conspiracy is just a lazy tactic to avoid backing up your statements.

**Janszoon** · 06-15-2016, 09:58 PM

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No, it doesn't make sense, but let's set that aside for now. I have a question.

In this flat Earth scenario, how do satellites with a polar orbit function (that is, satellites whose orbit passes over the North Pole, then the South Pole, then North Pole, over and over)? What sort of path are these satellites following?

For that matter, how do any satellites stay in orbit? The whole principal of an orbit is that a satellite is continuously falling in a circle around a sphere, and it's a balancing of gravitational pull and inertia that keeps them traveling that path. In a flat world with no gravity, how do they stay up and what keeps them moving in what would be a circle around nothing parallel to the flat surface of the Earth?

^I'd like to hear a response to my questions.

P A N · 06-15-2016, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

No, it doesn't make sense, but let's set that aside for now. I have a question.

In this flat Earth scenario, how do satellites with a polar orbit function (that is, satellites whose orbit passes over the North Pole, then the South Pole, then North Pole, over and over)? What sort of path are these satellites following?

For that matter, how do any satellites stay in orbit? The whole principal of an orbit is that a satellite is continuously falling in a circle around a sphere, and it's a balancing of gravitational pull and inertia that keeps them traveling that path. In a flat world with no gravity, how do they stay up and what keeps them moving in what would be a circle around nothing parallel to the flat surface of the Earth?

I like your questions.

This orbital question would require some imagination. Like I say, proving the Earth is not a ball has little to do with answering the greater questions of our existence in the resultant paradigm of thought. Regardless of that, I believe the concept of antigravity to be quite valid, though mislabelled. I think it's electromagnetism, but that's moot. The history and achievements of it are well documented, and I believe that we've come much farther with it than we're being led to believe. In short, I don't find it hard to imagine that what we're being told are vehicles with orbital trajectories out in the vacuum of space could be inner-space vehicles which can adjust course easily. A possible "polar path" could be simply that a craft of some kind is merely bouncing from one side of the map to the other. Meaning, what we percieve as south is actually the perimeter of the Earth and north is in the middle, so it just has to reach the boundary and go back in the opposite direction. There is also the possibility that the ISS is the only satellite up there, and it could be suspended in a similar manner, or guided by a gps-like system. F*ck, that thing could be a hologram for all I know.

P A N · 06-15-2016, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

^I'd like to hear a response to my questions.

Take it easy man. This isn't my career.

**Janszoon** · 06-15-2016, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by P A N

I like your questions.

This orbital question would require some imagination. Like I say, proving the Earth is not a ball has little to do with answering the greater questions of our existence in the resultant paradigm of thought. Regardless of that, I believe the concept of antigravity to be quite valid, though mislabelled. I think it's electromagnetism, but that's moot. The history and achievements of it are well documented, and I believe that we've come much farther with it than we're being led to believe. In short, I don't find it hard to imagine that what we're being told are vehicles with orbital trajectories out in the vacuum of space could be inner-space vehicles which can adjust course easily. A possible "polar path" could be simply that a craft of some kind is merely bouncing from one side of the map to the other. Meaning, what we percieve as south is actually the perimeter of the Earth and north is in the middle, so it just has to reach the boundary and go back in the opposite direction. There is also the possibility that the ISS is the only satellite up there, and it could be suspended in a similar manner, or guided by a gps-like system. F*ck, that thing could be a hologram for all I know.

Many different countries and many different corporations have launched satellites. Are you saying all of them—including countries that are enemies and corporations that are rivals—are working together to lie to us?

P A N · 06-15-2016, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

You're right, everything might be a lie and that thousands of people are lying to you to make you believe something that doesn't benefit them in any way. Or, the facts are actually facts. Claiming conspiracy is just a lazy tactic to avoid backing up your statements.

Actually, it does benefit a certain few. From what I can tell, those few are somewhere among the freemasons. The freemasons are one of the most (if not the most) prevalent societies on the planet. Their founder is said to be Pythagoras himself, and they've continued to expand since his time. Do a wiki search on all the lodges they own and operate. It might blow your mind.

See, if the Earth is flat, it was designed intelligently. I don't know by whom, but something intelligent. If any of the ancient cultures were onto something, there is certainly evidence of (in writing, art, monuments, empires built in dedication to) deities. If the Earth is flat, like the ancients thought it was, and intelligent designers exist, then our responsibilities as human beings would be a lot different than they are now. Right now, they say money makes the world go round. Well, what makes money go round? Narcissism. Self-obsession.

As a society we've become slaves to our desires. He who controls the money controls the people. We've allowed ourselves to become this way because our cultural ethics are completely polluted. We have nothing greater than ourselves to pay tribute to, so we fill that void with meaningless entertainment. That's my thoughts.

P A N · 06-15-2016, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Many different countries and many different corporations have launched satellites. Are you saying all of them—including countries that are enemies and corporations that are rivals—are working together to lie to us?

Yes. The antarctic treaty is what protects antarctica from free exploration, and all the countries who have space agencies belong to it. There are 53 signatories. There were 11 or 12 off the bat, including the US and Russia, who both signed it in 1959... during the cold war. All the world's a stage bruh.

P A N · 06-15-2016, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

In short, if the science doesn't match what you believe, go ahead and make up some of your own.

You can say dumb stuff like that if you want. The topic is more fun if you don't though. And that way you're not being a d*ck, which is always an awesome thing. Love non-d*ck.

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