Flat Earth Uprising?

EPOCH6 · 06-15-2016, 06:42 PM

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-Yes. Antarctica is an ice wall which encircles the Earth. There is no south pole. There is a north pole at the center of the map, which makes south appear to exist as the opposite of it. Researching any public expeditions to the south pole will show that there is a "Ceremonial Pole" where you can go and take a selfie. You can't find the true south pole, and they claim this is because the Earth is wobbling.

So when researchers in Antarctica are travelling back and forth from station to station, passing by the "Ceremonial Pole", they're really travelling in a circle around the edge of the Earth? Is it possible to map where the Ceremonial Pole is on a Flat Earth map? Or are there many ceremonial poles depending on which nation you approach the Ice Wall from? What prevents Antarctic researchers from discovering the edge of the Ice Wall while travelling in Antarctica?

Zhanteimi · 06-15-2016, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Because the vanishing point is the horizon line. The sun would appear smaller and smaller as it approached it, not bigger, and it would never appear to go beneath it because the vanishing point is by definition the point toward which all perspective lines move.

I was just about to ask that. Why does the setting sun look bigger then?

Chula Vista · 06-15-2016, 06:43 PM

Also, if the sun and moon are the same distance away what causes a total eclipse of the sun that can be seen by millions of people all over at once?

Chula Vista · 06-15-2016, 06:44 PM

And how about Magellan's trip?

P A N · 06-15-2016, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Because the vanishing point is the horizon line. The sun would appear smaller and smaller as it approached it, not bigger, and it would never appear to go beneath it because the vanishing point is by definition the point toward which all perspective lines move.

Ah I see what you're saying. I honestly can't answer that outright at the moment (but will keep it in mind - I wrote it down). I did catch a demonstration of visual illusions wherein a sky and earth and sun were made out of cut-out pieces of coloured paper though, and in it the horizon sat atop the background (sky), and the sun was put in the foreground to view, and then just a little bit under the horizon. It definitely looked bigger behind the horizon, and the demonstrator attributed this to our eyes' inability to properly view things relative to one another. I'm just talking off the top of my head really. Does it make any sense?

P A N · 06-15-2016, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

And how about Magellan's trip?

If you keep travelling east you will end up right where you started. No polar circumnavigation has been completed.

P A N · 06-15-2016, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Also, if the sun and moon are the same distance away what causes a total eclipse of the sun that can be seen by millions of people all over at once?

They are not seen by people "all over". eclipses are visble at different times depending on where you are. Some people don't get to see them when they happen.

Chula Vista · 06-15-2016, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by P A N

They are not seen by people "all over". eclipses are visble at different times depending on where you are. Some people don't get to see them when they happen.

I didn't imply all over the planet. The next total eclipse in the US will be on 8/21 and will be visible at varying degrees from Oregon all the way to Georgia. What causes the eclipse and why can it be seen by so many?

Just to be clear, I am 100% humoring you and don't buy a single shred of anything you've posted so far. How about explaining the photos from the space missions and the thousands of satellites from dozens of countries all over the planet?

Zhanteimi · 06-15-2016, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by P A N

If you keep travelling east you will end up right where you started.

Isn't that proof that something is spherical? If you travel along the surface of an object on one direction only and end up where you started, doesn't that mean said object is spherical? Or at least not flat?

**Janszoon** · 06-15-2016, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by P A N

Ah I see what you're saying. I honestly can't answer that outright at the moment (but will keep it in mind - I wrote it down). I did catch a demonstration of visual illusions wherein a sky and earth and sun were made out of cut-out pieces of coloured paper though, and in it the horizon sat atop the background (sky), and the sun was put in the foreground to view, and then just a little bit under the horizon. It definitely looked bigger behind the horizon, and the demonstrator attributed this to our eyes' inability to properly view things relative to one another. I'm just talking off the top of my head really. Does it make any sense?

No, it doesn't make sense, but let's set that aside for now. I have a question.

In this flat Earth scenario, how do satellites with a polar orbit function (that is, satellites whose orbit passes over the North Pole, then the South Pole, then North Pole, over and over)? What sort of path are these satellites following?

For that matter, how do any satellites stay in orbit? The whole principal of an orbit is that a satellite is continuously falling in a circle around a sphere, and it's a balancing of gravitational pull and inertia that keeps them traveling that path. In a flat world with no gravity, how do they stay up and what keeps them moving in what would be a circle around nothing parallel to the flat surface of the Earth?

06-15-2016, 06:43 PM	#53 (permalink)
Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	Also, if the sun and moon are the same distance away what causes a total eclipse of the sun that can be seen by millions of people all over at once? __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

06-15-2016, 06:44 PM	#54 (permalink)
Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	And how about Magellan's trip? __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”