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Old 11-07-2016, 09:24 AM   #301 (permalink)
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no you didn't. you said what it would depend on, and i clarified.
Yeah, I did, chief. Try this:
  1. Read what I wrote
  2. Apply it to what you asked
Presto.
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Old 11-07-2016, 09:31 AM   #302 (permalink)
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Simple geometry to disprove flat earth...



Let me know when you find a place on your flat world where you can make 3 90 degree turns and end up at your starting location.
sorry i missed this.

anyway, just because you can draw it does mean it's been done. this is why it's important to familiarize ourselves with logical fallacies. it is a logical fallacy called a "circular argument" to assume the ability to navigate an equilateral triangle on the surface of a sphere is proof of a ball-earth... unless of course you have proof that someone has actually traversed a 30,000km triangle, which you don't, because it's never been done. theoretically, this would certainly be possible on a ball earth.
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Old 11-07-2016, 09:34 AM   #303 (permalink)
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I'd imagine that would depend on how far away from you the surface of your imaginary flat plane stretched and how much the thickness of atmosphere at that distance diffused light.
how is this an answer? it just says it would depend on things. it gives no hint of an answer in the least.
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Old 11-07-2016, 09:34 AM   #304 (permalink)
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sorry i missed this.

anyway, just because you can draw it does mean it's been done. this is why it's important to familiarize ourselves with logical fallacies. it is a logical fallacy called a "circular argument" to assume the ability to navigate an equilateral triangle on the surface of a sphere is proof of a ball-earth... unless of course you have proof that someone has actually traversed a 30,000km triangle, which you don't, because it's never been done. theoretically, this would certainly be possible on a ball earth.
Why don't you try it?
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Old 11-07-2016, 09:35 AM   #305 (permalink)
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Why don't you try it?
haha. you fund it, i'll do it man. team work.
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this can't be independently validated. i know that seems like a cop out, and some bleating sheep will quote this line and put a laughing face under it or some totally original and witty thing. it's not a cop out. belief in jupiter requires faith.
You're right, it is a cop out. You asked for something, I provided it, and your response is that it doesn't exist. Jupiter has been observed by telescope for several centuries and has been photographed by many, many people for decades. To pretend it doesn't exist is just silly.
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how is this an answer? it just says it would depend on things. it gives no hint of an answer in the least.
How is it not an answer?
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Old 11-07-2016, 09:39 AM   #308 (permalink)
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haha. you fund it, i'll do it man. team work.
Maybe we can just look at plane routes and get the same idea.
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Old 11-07-2016, 09:49 AM   #309 (permalink)
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You're right, it is a cop out. You asked for something, I provided it, and you're response is that it doesn't exist. Jupiter has been observed by telescope for several centuries and has been photographed by many, many people for decades. To pretend is doesn't exist is just silly.
you're right. it would be very silly to say it doesn't exist. but like i said, i'll be getting into jupiter later. the only thing i'm saying about it is that just because it's there, doesn't mean it is exactly what we're told it is. this isn't a cop out at all. i can't cover everything in a day, and frankly, no one is doing me the courtesy of answering my questions directly, so i don't particularly feel the need to abide by your expectations. i'm not looking to convert anyone. i just want to talk about it. the tenacity of some of this site's long-standing members in ridicule and conclusions about people who think differently than them is not classy, and i'm doing things how i see fit in light of such behaviour. you can label that what you want.

but as far as labels go, and to bring light to the fact that i'm thinking logically in terms of jupiter, i'll say that bringing up jupiter at all in terms of determining the shape of the earth is a two logical fallacies. one being a false dilemma: we're looking at jupiter as existing in planet form or not existing at all, and the inquiry ends there. the second is a fallacy of division, in that your logic follows that because jupiter is a planet earth must be a planet as well. the second fallacy - to me - suggests that we should look for plenty of proof of the shape of the earth, right from the surface of it, without considering celestial bodies at all.
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What was the last question you asked?
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