Flat Earth Uprising?

**Janszoon** · 11-06-2016, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

Anybody that says they can see the curvature of the Earth is full of ****, you can't see it from the earth and you most likely won't even see it from a plane, not in a house with a mouse or a box with a fox. You have to be extremely high up into the air to finally see the curvature from the earth. That's because the earth is huge, much much much much much bigger than our puny selves can take in.

Sure you can. People have observed ships disappearing over the horizon for centuries. The horizon line we see is created by the fact that the surface of the Earth is curving away from the observer.

Chula Vista · 11-06-2016, 07:33 PM

P A N = Troll.

Let's stop feeding him and maybe he'll go away.

Next he'll claim that the International Space Station is a hoax too.

**Frownland** · 11-06-2016, 07:35 PM

That actually looks flat as ****.

Tristan_Geoff · 11-06-2016, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

P A N = Troll.

Let's stop feeding him and maybe he'll go away.

Next he'll claim that the International Space Station is a hoax too.

Isn't it? Think about it.

Lucem Ferre · 11-06-2016, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Sure you can. People have observed ships disappearing over the horizon for centuries. The horizon line we see is created by the fact that the surface of the Earth is curving away from the observer.

That's not what I meant...

The Batlord · 11-06-2016, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Sure you can. People have observed ships disappearing over the horizon for centuries. The horizon line we see is created by the fact that the surface of the Earth is curving away from the observer.

They mean the horizon curving... horizontally.

**Janszoon** · 11-06-2016, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

That's not what I meant...

It's what I meant though. I assumed you were making that comment at least in part toward me. If not, my bad.

Key · 11-06-2016, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

That actually looks flat as ****.

That's because it's a picture you dingus.

Aloysius · 11-06-2016, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by P A N

ships going over the horizon is a broad topic. a whole thread could be devoted to it. but pertaining to what you're talking about it, your argument falls apart when you pull a telescope out after the ship has disappeared to your naked eye, and it magically comes back into view. this is a replicable experiment. the reason it appears to shrink as it moves away is because we see things in perspective. all things shrink as they move away from the observer. hold your finger an inch from your eye and then move it to arm's length.

What you describe is not what happens when viewing ships. The ship disappears from the bottom up - with a large ship and calm sea you can see this with the naked eye. Use binoculars and you will see the ship as if it were closer, but the same amount of the bottom of the ship will be out of view. I strongly encourage you to try this yourself if you live close enough to a port - this is science from first principles, and all science is ultimately based on common sense and first principles.

The issue of atmosphere shouldn't be hard to understand - even if you don't like the term gravity you will notice that you don't float off into space, and neither does your car, nor the air that surrounds us. These things have mass. We can see that things with mass don't float off into space, and we call that gravity, but if you don't like that term you can call it Fred.

Lucem Ferre · 11-06-2016, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

It's what I meant though. I assumed you were making that comment at least in part toward me. If not, my bad.

I might have been but I didn't understand what you meant. I thought that you meant seeing a visible curve rather than seeing a ship disappear over the curve.

11-06-2016, 07:33 PM	#262 (permalink)
Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	P A N = Troll. Let's stop feeding him and maybe he'll go away. Next he'll claim that the International Space Station is a hoax too. __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

11-06-2016, 07:35 PM	#263 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	That actually looks flat as ***. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth.* d e a f b o x