Flat Earth Uprising?

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 06-16-2016, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Suzy Creamcheese

The Point of Know Return, you ass clowns.

That sounds better than Kansas to be honest, I hear they have a lot of tornadoes there.

Neapolitan · 06-16-2016, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by P A N

Hey everyone. Been awhile since I've stopped in. In saying that, I know I'll come off as a non-contributing member (I've been very busy), and I'm only hoping that rather than focusing on that, you choose to see the validity of the fact that everything I've ever done on MB is out of interest in the minds within its community. I've found some good thinkers here, and have learned much from them about a great deal more than music.

Some may remember me as kind of a fire-starter. It's never been my intention to do that, but it's never been my intention to take a beating lying down either. I like to explore all ideas, no matter how crazy they may sound. In saying that I hope to imply that this is not my first conversation about the topic of the post, and it's in everyone's best interest if it's approached in a civil manner. Meaning, if we stick to the science, or even just treat this as an excellent thought exercise (rather than ad hominem attacks and non sequitur approaches) you may find it to be quite a stimulating conversation. I can't limit peoples' freedoms of course, so anyone can feel free to call me an idiot if it so happens to be their proclivity. I say this because this topic can get heated, but it can also be dealt with properly with a dash of conscientious behaviour from the contributing parties.

All this being said, the point of the post is to discuss the Flat Earth Hypothesis. I will do my best to keep up with the conversation as it evolves by way of providing what I know about it and the proper context for ideas that we're not accustomed to accomodating, as we run with the model which suggests we're on a ball, so creating a framework within which to discuss the Flat Earth Hypothesis takes some time to build and get used to, particularly for newcomers. And I did a search before I started this thread, and that means it's not being discussed here, so there will definitely be newcomers.

SO! I suppose the best way to get started is for people to ask questions or defend the Heliocentric Model (Globe Earth), and I will respond. I am not a troll or trying to play tricks. I may ammend this OP with a legend of sorts as the thread grows, so as I don't have to keep explaining things in the amount of detail I will required in the beginning. Anyway, have at'er folks. Just please try to be nice.

Just to note, I am actually surprised there is such a divergent opinion within the scientific community. But I think that is healthy for debate.

My question for you is: How does Flat Earthers reconcile with Hollow Earths? At some point, maybe at some time in the distant future, science will eventually provide an answer to whether or not the Earth is indeed flat or hollow. It will end the debate by providing a fact that is universally accepted, well at least until the next theory is proposed and it challenges our previous notions as a misconceptions. Though, when that day and a winner is announced I am sure the opposing side will feel might salty. This is why you have to pick your theories carefully people.

Chula Vista · 06-16-2016, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

Just to note, I am actually surprised there is such a divergent opinion within the scientific community. But I think that is healthy for debate.

But there's not. You are confusing real scientists with lunatic fringe folks calling themselves scientists.

The sun is the same size and distance from the earth as the moon?

**Frownland** · 06-16-2016, 04:04 PM

Ja, I was gonna say that the divergent opinions of this thread are found entirely outside of the scientific community.

**Janszoon** · 06-16-2016, 04:33 PM

I propose the Truly Flat Earth Theory. Mountains and hills are a lie perpetrated by the governments of the world and various forest rangers.

Zhanteimi · 06-16-2016, 06:00 PM

I think P A N is gone.

**Frownland** · 06-16-2016, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mordwyr

I think P A N is gone.

*psst he's on right now*

Zhanteimi · 06-16-2016, 06:03 PM

Oh. Lol.

P A N · 06-16-2016, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

Just to note, I am actually surprised there is such a divergent opinion within the scientific community. But I think that is healthy for debate.

My question for you is: How does Flat Earthers reconcile with Hollow Earths? At some point, maybe at some time in the distant future, science will eventually provide an answer to whether or not the Earth is indeed flat or hollow. It will end the debate by providing a fact that is universally accepted, well at least until the next theory is proposed and it challenges our previous notions as a misconceptions. Though, when that day and a winner is announced I am sure the opposing side will feel might salty. This is why you have to pick your theories carefully people.

I won't feel salty at all if the Earth turns out to be a sphere. I think people get the feeling that I'm preaching when I talk about The Flat Earth, when really (and admittedly I utterly failed at exemplifying this in the OP), I would much rather be proven wrong. Maybe they think I'm preaching because I can't figure the whole thing out, or explain what I think I know in a day or maybe I'm hasty with my words... I don't know. But I assure any and all who read this that I'm just trying to find the truth. I have no agenda besides this. If I told anyone the Earth was flat because eclipses make it look the sun and moon are of the same size and they believed me I would think for certain their word is worthless. I say this because I stumbled upon the fact that there are a quickly growing number of people online who are not only supporting this, but furthering the investigation every single day, and I wanted to help them. Like most of the people here, I thought this would take about 5 minutes of my life up. In short, the resultant ongoing inquiry into the matter has been a huge pain in my ass, but I'm a fairly resourceful person, and my efforts to debunk the constituent arguments of the Flat Earth Theory have failed. No saltiness from me. I just get salty when people take NO TIME to engage it properly, favouring instead to resort to belittlement and embittered interactions like a bunch of neanderthals. Flat Earthers in general feel similar to this, as their main prerogative is to cause enough stir on social media so the scientific community cannot ignore them and must answer their questions. We don't want belief. We want answers.

To your question: Flat Earthers don't really worry about the Earth being hollow that I'm aware of, and I've never met a Hollow Earther. Their primary objective rests atop major flaws in the Globe Model. They don't claim - as a whole - to have answers about the actual shape of the Earth at all really. They just think it's not a ball.

Zhanteimi · 06-16-2016, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by P A N

I just get salty when people take NO TIME to engage it properly, favouring instead to resort to belittlement and embittered interactions like a bunch of neanderthals.

I'm not an anthropology expert, but I assume neanderthals didn't have the luxury to sit around and belittle people.

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