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Old 10-30-2016, 10:05 PM   #1791 (permalink)
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Cool. How does him being a Republican make his decision necessarily a partisan one? I've heard nothing but conjecture from you on that count, and considering how much you've been criticizing others for using conjecture against Hillary I think that's pretty hypocritical.
Because he had no other reason to do it. His boss told him not to. The Department of Justice didn't want him to. And by doing it it can only hurt Clinton and/or help Trump.

Like I posted earlier, it's all everyone was talking about on the Sunday morning news programs and discussion panels.

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The rationale, described by officials close to Comey’s decision-making on the condition of anonymity, prompted the FBI director to release his brief letter to Congress on Friday and upset a presidential race less than two weeks before Election Day. It placed Comey again at the center of a highly partisan argument over whether the nation’s top law enforcement agency was unfairly influencing the campaign.
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Old 10-30-2016, 10:10 PM   #1792 (permalink)
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WTB, read this very closely. Especially the parts I bolded.

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and???

What are you posting that we already do not know? We know that the pressure led to a bad decision, though personally as I stated, I think the public has a right to know. There is no evidence to show that he is doing this for personal gain down the road.

In light of the new information there is now an FBI criminal probe into Hillary Clinton, and she must take responsibility for breaking the rules on national security, while still choosing to run for the Presidency, if nothing substantive is found, she will be cleared of any wrongdoing.
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Old 10-30-2016, 10:29 PM   #1793 (permalink)
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There is no evidence to show that he is doing this for personal gain down the road.
Agreed. There's plenty of stuff pointing at him doing it for possibly very short term GOP gains. And we don't KNOW that pressure led to his poor decision. That's something you keep clinging to.

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In light of the new information there is now an FBI criminal probe into Hillary Clinton, and she must take responsibility for breaking the rules on national security.
At this time there is no FBI criminal probe or criminal investigation. Clinton shouldn't take responsibility for anything until the FBI comes forth and discloses that they actually found something incriminating in the new emails.

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If nothing substantive is found, she will be cleared of any wrongdoing.
This reeks of guilty until proven innocent. What if she loses the election and afterwards the FBI comes out and admits they found nothing. Remember you can't be cleared of something until after you've actually been charged of something. The first investigation is closed. As of today there's no criminal investigation open.

So again, the only logical conclusion he did what he did (and is getting roundly criticized for) is to help the GOP in the homestretch of the election.
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Old 10-30-2016, 10:33 PM   #1794 (permalink)
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Because he had no other reason to do it. His boss told him not to. The Department of Justice didn't want him to. And by doing it it can only hurt Clinton and/or help Trump.

Like I posted earlier, it's all everyone was talking about on the Sunday morning news programs and discussion panels.

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You just said he was covering his own ass. You say he has two reasons, but then turn around and say he didn't have any other reason when it comes time to accuse him of being partisan. I'm seriously confused as to your reasoning. Usually I can at least follow your train of thought, but this time I'm actually struggling.
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You just said he was covering his own ass. You say he has two reasons, but then turn around and say he didn't have any other reason when it comes time to accuse him of being partisan. I'm seriously confused as to your reasoning. Usually I can at least follow your train of thought, but this time I'm actually struggling.
He's covering his ass with his party by trying to influence the election in their favor. Are you reading all of my posts because I've explained the logic very clearly a number of times over the past few pages.

If Clinton wins and then weeks later Comey comes up with something to use against her, and then the GOP learns that he had the potential ammo weeks before the election but chose to keep it quiet per Department of Justice protocol he'd be roasted alive by the GOP and the alt-right.

So he said damn the torpedos and leaked the news to possibly save his ass down the road in the scenario above.
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He's covering his ass with his party by trying to influence the election in their favor. Are you reading all of my posts because I've explained the logic very clearly a number of times over the past few pages.

If Clinton wins and then weeks later Comey comes up with something to use against her, and then the GOP learns that he had the potential ammo weeks before the election but chose to keep it quiet per Department of Justice protocol he'd be roasted alive by the GOP and the alt-right.

So he said damn the torpedos and leaked the news to possibly save his ass down the road in the scenario above.
Wouldn't that all be true if he was a Democrat?
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Agreed. There's plenty of stuff pointing at him doing it for possibly very short term GOP gains. And we don't KNOW that pressure led to his poor decision. That's something you keep clinging to.



At this time there is no FBI criminal probe or criminal investigation. Clinton shouldn't take responsibility for anything until the FBI comes forth and discloses that they actually found something incriminating in the new emails.



This reeks of guilty until proven innocent. What if she loses the election and afterwards the FBI comes out and admits they found nothing. Remember you can't be cleared of something until after you've actually been charged of something. The first investigation is closed. As of today there's no criminal investigation open.

So again, the only logical conclusion he did what he did (and is getting roundly criticized for) is to help the GOP in the homestretch of the election.
Her initial investigation has not been reopened, but the FBI is currently conducting a criminal probe into her previous activities in light of these new emails. There must be something substantive in there that goes beyond her daily aerobics routine for the Director of the FBI to notify congress less than two weeks before the federal election.

So again, whether this becomes public information or not, she chose to break the rules in regards to national security, so she must take responsibility for the fallout that occurs. If Joe Biden or Bernie Sanders was the nominee, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
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Wouldn't that all be true if he was a Democrat?
Only if he was trying to influence for the democrat. If he was a Dem and trying to damage the GOP candidate he'd be catching the same flack from his bosses and the right.

The DOJ and FBI are suppose to do everything possible to not seem partisan and especially not potentially interfere with elections.
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Only if he was trying to influence for the democrat. If he was a Dem and trying to damage the GOP candidate he'd be catching the same flack from his bosses and the right.

The DOJ and FBI are suppose to do everything possible to not seem partisan and especially not potentially interfere with elections.
But if he was a Democrat and didn't go public then he'd catch the same **** from the Republicans. His party affiliation would make no difference, except perhaps from the amount of **** he would catch.
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Her initial investigation has not been reopened, but the FBI is currently conducting a criminal probe into her previous activities in light of these new emails.
This is simply not true.
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