hillary clinton 4 prez

William_the_Bloody · 10-22-2016, 09:10 AM

The election is already over I very much doubt a brexit will happen at this point. Boris Johnson had positive favourability rating with the general public....Trump does not.

Trump beat Trump. He could have won, but his personality is just to narcissistic and unstable for the general public to swallow. The only reason this race is still competitive, is because Trump is offering an alternative to policies that large parts of the American public desperately want changed, which both the Republican and Democratic establishment are the same on. (free trade, immigration and foreign policy)

As for Clinton, I've been a little hard on her, but she is so disliked by the general public I can't see her serving more than a four year term. The one good thing about a Clinton Presidency is that the first one is the only President who has been able to balance the books and run a surplus since....well a very long time. You have to all the way back to the Keynesian post war economy under Nixon before you can find a Republican President who didn't run consistent deficits. So there you go, park your classical liberal vote with the Clintons.

The Batlord · 10-22-2016, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

The WW3 **** is kind of cliche at this point because everybody has been predicting it like doomsday for decades. 'The war in Iraq is going to become WW3' Though, there is a little more weight with Hillary wanting to police Putin, it's still pretty cliche. Also, look at how Trump reacted towards Bill Maher's birther joke. That kind of overreaction is what scares me. I mean, really, the President has the power to wield the military around like a hand gun in a gangster rap video.

You know what else is cliche? The idea that this election is the most important election of our lives and it is not the election to "waste" your vote. I heard that last election, and the election before that, and when Bush was running. At what point do the voters sack up and vote for who they really want? Just wait until four years from now when the insane American voters repeat the same cycle and wonder how politicians get away with being so crooked. The saddest part is that we are completely self aware of our stupid voting habits but we still don't do anything about it. At that point could anybody really pity our country if it falls on hard times as a repercussion?

Completely ****ed up when I'm constantly being told about the importance of voting but voting for anybody who isn't who they want is a wasted vote. Nah, you're just a dumb contradiction.

Hey check your PMs, bro.

Psy-Fi · 10-22-2016, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

The potential for nuclear war with Russia is stupid fear mongering tactics that you keep hearing from Fox News and other right wing media pundits. There is no potential for nuclear war with Russia.

I've been hearing just as much (if not more) from people on the left saying the same thing about Trump.

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

So you rather take someone that will send the US economy into the tanker while creating all kinds of conflicts around the world than have Hillary? Also what do you think presidents have the power to do actually? You do know she has to go through our congress and if it's a Republican led congress all this war mongering and world policing that you are afraid of won't even happen. Even with a Democratic congress those two things can't happen. Also traditionally, Republicans are more known to be the one that pushes for wars and world policing/getting involved in foreign countries. Democrats usually want to cut back on military spending.

When it comes to Republicans and Democrats during war, it's an even split between both political parties...

American Revolution - George Washington (Non-affiliated)
War of 1812 - James Madison (Democratic-Republican)
Mexican-American War - James K. Polk (Democratic)
US Civil War - Abraham Lincoln (Republican)
Spanish American War - William McKinley (Republican)
World War I - Woodrow Wilson (Democratic)
World War II - Franklin D. Roosevelt (Democratic) and Harry S. Truman (Democratic)
Korean War - Dwight D. Eisenhower (Republican)
Vietnam War - Dwight D. Eisenhower (Republican), John F. Kennedy (Democratic), Lyndon B. Johnson (Democratic), and Richard Nixon (Republican)
Persian Gulf War - George H. W. Bush (Republican)
Second Persian Gulf War - George W. Bush (Republican) and Barack Obama (Democratic)

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

The WW3 **** is kind of cliche at this point because everybody has been predicting it like doomsday for decades. 'The war in Iraq is going to become WW3' Though, there is a little more weight with Hillary wanting to police Putin, it's still pretty cliche. Also, look at how Trump reacted towards Bill Maher's birther joke. That kind of overreaction is what scares me. I mean, really, the President has the power to wield the military around like a hand gun in a gangster rap video.

You know what else is cliche? The idea that this election is the most important election of our lives and it is not the election to "waste" your vote. I heard that last election, and the election before that, and when Bush was running. At what point do the voters sack up and vote for who they really want? Just wait until four years from now when the insane American voters repeat the same cycle and wonder how politicians get away with being so crooked. The saddest part is that we are completely self aware of our stupid voting habits but we still don't do anything about it. At that point could anybody really pity our country if it falls on hard times as a repercussion?

Completely ****ed up when I'm constantly being told about the importance of voting but voting for anybody who isn't who they want is a wasted vote. Nah, you're just a dumb contradiction.

I've been hearing that line uttered in every Presidential election since I started paying attention to politics back in 1976 and I'm sure it was being repeated each election cycle long before that.

Lucem Ferre · 10-22-2016, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Hey check your PMs, bro.

There's nothing in there.

grindy · 10-22-2016, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

There's nothing in there.

I'm sure there's some kind of deep meaning behind that.
It's basically the 4'33'' of PMs.

grindy · 10-22-2016, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan Hale

who thinks her daughter will run in the future?

Her daughter, their dog, that dress with Bill's cum on it...

Lucem Ferre · 10-22-2016, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by grindy

Her daughter, their dog, that dress with Bill's cum on it...

I'd vote for that dog, but that dress keeps flipping on issues, doesn't know if it wants to be blue and black or white and gold.

Chula Vista · 10-22-2016, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Psy-Fi

When it comes to Republicans and Democrats during war, it's an even split between both political parties...

American Revolution - George Washington (Non-affiliated)
War of 1812 - James Madison (Democratic-Republican)
Mexican-American War - James K. Polk (Democratic)
US Civil War - Abraham Lincoln (Republican)
Spanish American War - William McKinley (Republican)
World War I - Woodrow Wilson (Democratic)
World War II - Franklin D. Roosevelt (Democratic) and Harry S. Truman (Democratic)
Korean War - Dwight D. Eisenhower (Republican)
Vietnam War - Dwight D. Eisenhower (Republican), John F. Kennedy (Democratic), Lyndon B. Johnson (Democratic), and Richard Nixon (Republican)
Persian Gulf War - George H. W. Bush (Republican)
Second Persian Gulf War - George W. Bush (Republican) and Barack Obama (Democratic)

Including WWI and WWII is correct in context but in all honesty did the country have any choice whatsoever in those two wars? Including Obama in the second Persian Gulf war is ingenuous. Inheriting a war that the US is so vested in, you just can't flip a switch from on to off.

**Frownland** · 10-22-2016, 04:46 PM

He's still commander in chief during those wars, just like those four presidents in the Vietnam list.

William_the_Bloody · 10-22-2016, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Including WWI and WWII is correct in context but in all honesty did the country have any choice whatsoever in those two wars? Including Obama in the second Persian Gulf war is ingenuous. Inheriting a war that the US is so vested in, you just can't flip a switch from on to off.

You have a choice in Syria, and Clinton is going to drag you further into the mud there.

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William_the_Bloody Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Sunnydale Cemetary Posts: 2,093	The election is already over I very much doubt a brexit will happen at this point. Boris Johnson had positive favourability rating with the general public....Trump does not. Trump beat Trump. He could have won, but his personality is just to narcissistic and unstable for the general public to swallow. The only reason this race is still competitive, is because Trump is offering an alternative to policies that large parts of the American public desperately want changed, which both the Republican and Democratic establishment are the same on. (free trade, immigration and foreign policy) As for Clinton, I've been a little hard on her, but she is so disliked by the general public I can't see her serving more than a four year term. The one good thing about a Clinton Presidency is that the first one is the only President who has been able to balance the books and run a surplus since....well a very long time. You have to all the way back to the Keynesian post war economy under Nixon before you can find a Republican President who didn't run consistent deficits. So there you go, park your classical liberal vote with the Clintons.