hillary clinton 4 prez

djchameleon · 10-14-2016, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Ki

I just like to feel motivated to change instead of putting up with the broken system we have. I'm a bit optimistic in that regard I admit.

It's good to be optimistic and feeling motivated to change but you have to find thousands that are just like you to be able to make a dent in changing the current system.

Key · 10-14-2016, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

It's good to be optimistic and feeling motivated to change but you have to find thousands that are just like you to be able to make a dent in changing the current system.

Yeah. I just still find admitting a problem as a cop out. That's just me.

djchameleon · 10-14-2016, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Ki

Yeah. I just still find admitting a problem as a cop out. That's just me.

If you are acknowledging a problem how is it a cop out then?

Key · 10-14-2016, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

If you are acknowledging a problem how is it a cop out then?

In the context of the argument it is.

Chula Vista · 10-14-2016, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Goofle

And lacking compassion doesn't mean you can't be friendly. Two different things. I'm thinking more about defending alleged rapists, laughing about it years later and all of the other stuff regarding Bill Clinton's alleged sexual assault charges.

Why do a lot of you fail in fact checking from non-partisan sources before standing by stupid claims?

http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinto...ghed-about-it/

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Originally Posted by Ki

This is such a cop out reasoning that it's stupid. Are you insinuating we are not allowed to push for a difference? I get that you're too old to give a ****, but saying this type of thing is both irritating and offensive to the younger generation.

Stop ****ing putting words in my mouth Ki. I'm getting a little sick and tired of it. I DIDN'T INSINUATE THAT YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PUSH FOR CHANGE. And accepting the reality of how things are is not stupid. It's practical. Why should I throw my vote away when none of the third party candidates stand a snowballs chance in hell of getting even 5 electoral votes, let alone 270.

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

I don't think it's about pushing for a difference. The type of change that would be needed would requirement a shit load of people. There just aren't enough that currently care about making changes to the current system that we are in.

Ki, how much time have you spent away from the forum getting out there and championing for change in a way that could truly matter? Or do you just hang around here whining about why we can't have change???

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Originally Posted by Ki

In the context of the argument it is.

I'm not arguing in this case. I'm being realistic. And saying I'm too old and must therefore not give a **** is just hitting low. I've been one of the most active members in the political threads from the start. I just like dealing in facts and having my vote count rather than relying on party line BS and pipe dreams.

Key · 10-14-2016, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Ki, how much time have you spent away from the forum getting out there and championing for change in a way that could truly matter? Or do you just hang around here whining about why we can't have change???

I refuse to respond since that's a silly claim.

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

I'm not arguing in this case. I'm being realistic. And saying I'm too old and must therefore not give a **** is just hitting low. I've been one of the most active members in the political threads from the start. I just like dealing in facts and having my vote count rather than relying on party line BS and pipe dreams.

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I just like dealing in facts and having my vote count rather than relying on party line BS and pipe dreams.

Well congrats on voting for an evil other than fighting for change.

Chula Vista · 10-14-2016, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Ki

I refuse to respond since that's a silly claim.

You always refuse to answer the hard questions. And your reading skills continue to elude you since you won't address what I actually say and instead just twist my words into something that fits your narrative.

The Batlord · 10-14-2016, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Ki

I refuse to respond since that's a silly claim.

Not really. If you actually care about changing **** to any real degree then you should probably do more than post on internet forums. But if you're just in it for the fun of debate and insult hurling then you're fine. I mean Chula does nothing more that I know of than that, but he also freely admits that aside from elections he's generally apathetic, whereas DJ never shuts up about this ****, but he also does community volunteer **** or whatever.