hillary clinton 4 prez

djchameleon · 10-11-2016, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy

Errr - no. I asked for links because just as I suspected, the evidence you gave me was filled with nonsense that only the PC police could write off as actually being racist. I'm not questioning Trump's racism, some of the stuff reporter from years ago has certainly made it evident he may be. I'm looking for things he has said since he's started running. Hillary supporters love to say all of the dirt on her is from years ago, but everything I hear people toss at Trump is the same deal. Why can't we just admit they're both pieces of **** and vote for somebody else?

Just because you don't like the source doesn't mean to get to write off what's said it in. As I said in my previous post, did you even read it? I didn't even notice that Ki posted it before I did but What's your excuse for what I bolded and underlined in my previous post? you didn't address it whatsoever.

Yes they are both pieces of **** but voting for someone else is just an indirect vote for Trump and we all know it.

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At the Republican convention, he officially seized the mantle of the “law and order” candidate — an obvious dog whistle playing to white fears of black crime, even though crime in the US is historically low.

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Trump has repeatedly referred to Sen. Elizabeth Warren, who has said she has Cherokee ancestors, as “Pocahontas.”

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He tweeted and later deleted an image that showed Hillary Clinton in front of a pile of money and by a Jewish Star of David that said, “Most Corrupt Candidate Ever!” The tweet had some very obvious anti-Semitic imagery, but Trump insisted that the star was a sheriff’s badge and said his campaign shouldn’t have deleted it.

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Trump has been repeatedly slow to condemn white supremacists who endorse him, and he regularly retweets messages from white supremacists and neo-Nazis.

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When asked at a Republican debate whether all 1.6 billion Muslims hate the US, Trump said, “I mean a lot of them. I mean a lot of them.”

So he's not "racist" but he's definitely a bigot and prejudice against many different groups to the point that he might as well be labeled a racist.

The Batlord · 10-11-2016, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ki

Fair enough.

Unsure if Bat realizes I have him on ignore and everything he says I can't see. It's actually nice to be honest.

Lol I wonder if he even has LiL on ignore? What a baby.

**Frownland** · 10-11-2016, 01:55 PM

Now, just curious, is all of that evidence in the quotes supposed to help your case or hurt it, DJ?

Chula Vista · 10-11-2016, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Now, just curious, is all of that evidence in the quotes supposed to help your case or hurt it, DJ?

It's sad when people feign denseness just to keep a debate going.

**Frownland** · 10-11-2016, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

It's sad when people feign denseness just to keep a debate going.

Not quite as sad as when people are unintentionally dense.

**Frownland** · 10-11-2016, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

Yes they are both pieces of **** but voting for someone else is just an indirect vote for Trump and we all know it.

I'll not have fear mongering on my forum.

Chula Vista · 10-11-2016, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Not quite as sad as when people are unintentionally dense.

So you do not think any of those comments have racial tones to them???

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 10-11-2016, 02:02 PM

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At the Republican convention, he officially seized the mantle of the “law and order” candidate — an obvious dog whistle playing to white fears of black
crime, even though crime in the US is historically low.

What does this possibly have to do with racism? Law & order = going against blacks? Try again.

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Trump has repeatedly referred to Sen. Elizabeth Warren, who has said she has Cherokee ancestors, as “Pocahontas.”

Could I have evidence of this? "Repeatedly" is a worthless term if I can't see proof of it ever actually happening.

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He tweeted and later deleted an image that showed Hillary Clinton in front of a pile of money and by a Jewish Star of David that said, “Most Corrupt Candidate Ever!” The tweet had some very obvious anti-Semitic imagery, but Trump insisted that the star was a sheriff’s badge and said his campaign shouldn’t have deleted it.

Wow, so racist!

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Trump has been repeatedly slow to condemn white supremacists who endorse him, and he regularly retweets messages from white supremacists and neo-Nazis.

LOL again with this "regularly" nonsense. This is the most ridiculous argument ever had. Also, please show me a politician who would condemn anyone who endorses them, we both know that politician doesn't exist.

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When asked at a Republican debate whether all 1.6 billion Muslims hate the US, Trump said, “I mean a lot of them. I mean a lot of them.”

This is the only one that I would actually call racist out of any the points you just made. Had he said "Acts in the past have made it clear a lot of them do" I would defend it, but his wording is pretty iffy with that one.

**Frownland** · 10-11-2016, 02:02 PM

Involving race in any way shape or form =/= racism

Out of that list, I could only see myself calling the Pocahontas comment racist.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 10-11-2016, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Involving race in any way shape or form =/= racism

Out of that list, I could only see myself calling the Pocahontas comment racist.

Here's an article for the Pocahontas comment:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...en-pocahontas/

TL;DR: Warren has absolutely no proof of her Native American background and Trump is bringing that fact up because let's be honest, he's a tool and that's what politicians do.

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Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	Now, just curious, is all of that evidence in the quotes supposed to help your case or hurt it, DJ? __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

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Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	Involving race in any way shape or form =/= racism Out of that list, I could only see myself calling the Pocahontas comment racist. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x