hillary clinton 4 prez

Chula Vista · 09-09-2016, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle

So it's not good enough that you would naturally pay back more into the system if everyone was taxed at the same percentage? You also have to pay even more than that because you're being punished for working hard and making better money?

Yes. I don't think of it as punishment at all though. More like Pay It Forward.

djchameleon · 09-09-2016, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Yes. I don't think of it as punishment at all though. More like Pay It Forward.

Exactly it's more of a pay it forward and also with all the tax loopholes why would anyone complain and cry about it?

I'll answer that rhetorical question for you, they shouldn't and they most likely don't.

A large majority of people in the upper bracket end up only paying 17% at the end of the day when all is said and done because of tax loopholes.

If Trump would release his tax records, you'd see exactly what I mean. Hillary is at least a bit honest in that she pays the proper amount for the money that she has earned over the last year. The reason Trump doesn't want to release his tax statements is one , he's being audited and two it will show how little he actually pays in taxes and it will DESTROY any arguments he has in that area.

Chula Vista · 09-17-2016, 08:42 PM

Ooops.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_W...il_controversy

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Emails on RNC-Controlled Accounts Were Deleted
The RNC’s policy was to erase all emails after 30 days and White House staffers were able to delete emails on their own. “Because the RNC had a policy until 2004 of erasing all e-mails on its servers after 30 days, including those by White House staffers, and because some of those staffers may have deleted e-mails on their own, the White House said it could not assure Congress that they have not violated the PRA, which requires the retention of official White House documents. The White House officials who may have broken the law include senior adviser Karl Rove, his deputies and much of their staffs.” - Time Magazine, 4/13/07

Karl Rove did in fact break the law and was forced to resign. Interesting to note that he's been one of Clinton's harshest critics over her emails.

hip hop bunny hop · 09-19-2016, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Goofle

So it's not good enough that you would naturally pay back more into the system if everyone was taxed at the same percentage? You also have to pay even more than that because you're being punished for working hard and making better money?

You seem to be ignorant of how making money in America works, apart from other basic facts. Any ways, a good example would be retirement accounts. If you're poor, you get discounted company stock. If you're middle class you get matched account contributions. If your on your way, you get a company that pays your contribution and matches it. These are all more or less equally tax deductible as well as their gains. Hence why most wealth in America is inherited not earned.

**Goofle** · 09-19-2016, 02:22 AM

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djchameleon · 09-19-2016, 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Goofle

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I don't really want to speak for him because maybe he might mean something else but he's talking strictly about people that are climbing the career ladder and the different retirement options that they are offered depending on how how up the ladder they are.

Most people aren't entrepreneurs that bust their ass and work out to make millions and hit the jackpot like the ones that complain about paying taxes in the higher tax brackets.

Chula Vista · 09-20-2016, 11:14 AM

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Former President George H.W. Bush is bucking his party's presidential nominee and plans to vote for Hillary Clinton in November, according to a member of another famous political family, the Kennedys.
Bush, 92, had intended to stay silent on the White House race between Clinton and Donald Trump, a sign in and of itself of his distaste for the GOP nominee. But his preference for the wife of his own successor, President Bill Clinton, nonetheless became known to a wider audience thanks to Kathleen Hartington Kennedy Townsend, the former Maryland lieutenant governor and daughter of the late Robert F. Kennedy.

On Monday, Townsend posted a picture on her Facebook page shaking hands next to the former president and this caption: "The President told me he’s voting for Hillary!!”

In a telephone interview, Townsend said she met with the former president in Maine earlier today, where she said he made his preference known that he was voting for a Democrat. “That’s what he said,” she told POLITICO.

Asked about Townsend’s post, George H.W. Bush spokesman Jim McGrath in an email replied, "The vote President Bush will cast as a private citizen in some 50 days will be just that: a private vote cast in some 50 days. He is not commenting on the presidential race in the interim."

George H.W. Bush and former First Lady Barbara Bush have stayed out of the political debate since campaigning earlier this year for their son Jeb's unsuccessful bid for president. Neither George H.W. Bush nor his son, former President George W. Bush, attended this summer's Republican National Convention in Cleveland where Trump accepted the nomination.

Many former GOP officials from both Bush administrations have also announced their support for Clinton over Trump, including national security adviser Brent Scowcroft and former Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez.

Says a hell of a lot.

Key · 09-20-2016, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Says a hell of a lot.

I saw that last night and honestly, it's gotten me rethinking my opinions about her. That's a pretty big deal.

Chula Vista · 09-20-2016, 11:35 AM

Ki, it is. Two former GOP presidents, who have had the experience of sitting in that chair, and also don't give a crap about what the GOP base thinks of them anymore because they are not running for anything, are voting with their conscience instead of towing party lines. Same goes for a lot of their former staff.

These people have played in the big game. They understand what it takes. And they've decided that she is the best choice in 2016.

**Frownland** · 09-20-2016, 11:36 AM

I'll support anything the Bush family supports, they're my favey.

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