Goofle

I think you have me confused with somebody else.

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William_the_Bloody

Ugh! I just can't bring myself to support her anymore.... the corruption and security breaches is getting to me.

If she wins that will be the end of the Democratic Party for a long time. Guaranteed she will lose in 4, and there will be 8 years of accelerated neo liberalism under someone like Rubio.

When Donald Trump is further to the left on several economic issues than Hillary, than their is something wrong with the picture. Guaranteed she'll sign the TPP. No I have had enough of this Goldman Sachs floosy, I de-endorse Hillary....Trump gets one more chance.

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djchameleon

I like my politicians corrupt. The more that I hear about shady stuff coming out the more it turns me on and I want to support her even more.

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Janszoon

The corruption and security breaches? I haven't seen some big mountain of such things, just the same couple stories over and over that people keep digging into and, frankly, not finding much.

As far as Trump goes, why should a guy with such a long history of lies, racism, diarrhea of the mouth, lawsuits, and failed business ventures get one more chance? The man is a walking, talking custerfuck.

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RoxyRollah

If only they didn't cover her litnay of crimes on the internet. Thats why you see the same **** over and over. Let's talk about Mena Ak, Vince Foster, The clinton foundation.....lets talk about the media that is helping cover her crimes. Seriously get back to me before the Internet stateside goes under U.N control.

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Janszoon

Those would be the same old stories I was referring to, plus the email server. A whole lot of effort by people to turn them into huge things, but not a lot there.

The rest of your post is conspiracy nonsense that's not worth discussing outside its comedy value.

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Chula Vista

Let's not forget BENGHAZI!!!!!!!!!!!!

Was debating a guy yesterday about Clinton and Trump, and Benghazi was his fallback position as to why she's a POS.

When I mentioned that it was the GOP led congress that voted twice to not increase funding for foreign embassy protection, even though the intelligence agency told them that they were at risk - he brushed it aside and shouted BENGHAZI!!!!!!

When I mentioned that the GOP had spent $7 million taxpayer dollars on 8 separate committee investigations and hearings, yet had to walk away with their tails between their legs because they couldn't find a damn thing to charge her with - he ignored it and shouted BENGHAZI!!!!

When I asked him how he felt about the fact that between the 9/11 attacks (which Bush's administration had prior intel on) and the Iraq war (which Bush's administration lied about WMDs in order to get congress to commit to it) over 7,500 US people died and over 50,000 were injured (compared to the 4 lost lives at the US embassy) - he covered his ears, shut his eyes, and shouted BENGHAZI, BENGHAZI, BENGHAZI!!!!!!!

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William_the_Bloody

I highlight to make it easy to follow not to be a dick.

It's a tough one...for me anyway...because she has become so tarnished in the eyes of the general public, and is loathed amongst much of the grassroot party that I don't see her winning more than 1 term in office.


All the emails that continue to trickle down on the Clinton Foundation, Goldman Sachs, the Saudi's, her email server, blackberry and lies are just going to keep building up until someone like Marco Rubio makes quick work of her in 4 years. A disenchanted left will then probably swing the party further to the left with a candidate like Elizabeth Warren, allowing Marco Rubio 8 years.

If Trump wins on the other hand, he forces the Republican Party to swing to the left, and with the changing demographics, he is most likely facing an uphill battle to win a second term.

More importantly though, because he's more or less self funding he's offering the American people a chance to jump off the neo liberal train that's been killing American jobs and wages since the 80's. It may be a right wing xenophobic nationalist Patrick Buchanan leap, as opposed to a left wing tolerant progressive Bernie Sanders leap, but it's a jump off the train nonetheless, but more importantly a Trump win would wreak havoc in the Republican Party...

via leaving the Kock brothers and neo liberals who want to privatize social security and medicare in the wilderness.


A Clinton win would be 4 years of neo liberalism light (Classical liberalism) followed by 8 years of neo liberalism hardcore. Fox aside, there is something very wrong when the corporate media lamb blasts the Republican candidate in favour of a Democrat.

Yes you run the risk of a two term Trump Presidency, but it almost seems more strategic to run that risk and get a Democrat candidate who will beat Trump in four years, and stay in for eight.

Key

This is possibly my all time favorite point that anybody has brought up recently.

William_the_Bloody

I highlight so its easier to read not to be a dick

I don't know if your being sarcastic, but it true up to a point. In terms of economic policy a Trump Presidency would in many respects be more aligned with the policies of Nixon and Eisenhower than Reagan and Bush on economic policy, so a swing away from neo liberalism.

Trump is relying on white working class voters to propel him to the White House so if he touches social security or medicaid he's a dead man and won't live out a second term.

His chances of winning a second term decrease in 4 years, particularly in the key swing state of Florida where the aging white population is dropping off and the Hispanic population is rapidly growing. This is also true in Virginia. He would have to compensate by making major inroads with Black American populations in blue states...which I don't think he can do.

Where I greatly distrust Trump is on tax policy, which is basically Reagan's voodoo economics (I believe Trump even has a Reagan policy advisor on his team?) The steep tax cuts and elimination of red tape, would most likely result in a growth explosion in the economy, but would put the US into a major debt to gdp ratio hole, which would leave the door open to privatizing social security. Which is the main reason I haven't been supporting him.

The second worriesome policy is his previous call to deport the illegal immigrants/undocumented workers. I don't think he would attempt this but if he did, it could cause a major retraction in the US economy. It's not the illegal immigrants but rather legal immigrants that compete for the same jobs as low skilled blue collar workers. Though I am of the general opinion, that if one crosses a border illegally...your effectively breaking the law, but if you know your not going to be accepted legally, and your from a $hithole like Guatemala "What have you got to lose"

Nonetheless, he would push the Republican Party to the left in leave the Kock brothers in the Barry Goldwater wilderness.