hillary clinton 4 prez

Chula Vista · 10-30-2016, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 1blankmind

Have eyes explained why they reopened the case? I haven't gotten to read much about this.

They found some emails on Weiner's estranged wife's laptop that include Clinton. They haven't provided an ounce of any detail as to the content though which is why the Dems are incensed. They are demanding that the FBI release the emails before the election - which of course the FBI won't have enough time to do.

So it stinks based on the timing.

(hey, did you ever post our collaboration?)

Blank. · 10-30-2016, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

They found some emails on Weiner's estranged wife's laptop that include Clinton. They haven't provided an ounce of any detail as to the content though which is why the Dems are incensed. They are demanding that the FBI release the emails before the election - which of course the FBI won't have enough time to do.

So it stinks based on the timing.

(hey, did you ever post our collaboration?)

Ok. All makes sense.

I haven't posted it yet. It'll be on my album when it comes out. Which will be November 5th.

William_the_Bloody · 10-30-2016, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

NO. NO. NO. NO. I am not assuming that Comey is politically motivated to re-open the case. Let me repeat, I am not assuming that Comey is politically motivated to re-open the case. I could give a **** about him re-opening the case. He has every right to re-open the case. THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE.

Him going public and informing the republican congress about it, and of course the letter being leaked to the media and general public IS THE ISSUE. Him GOING PUBLIC is what the controversy is here.

It's not about the potential of the FBI maybe finding evidence to convict Clinton. It's about the FBI inserting itself into a highly volatile political race 11 days before the election.

If somehow Trump pulls of a last minute comeback to win the election, when Clinton's had been way ahead for weeks, the political **** is going to hit the fan if they don't find anything in the emails. The entire Justice Department will come under massive fire for breaking protocol by inserting the FBI into the race so late into the game.

It's not about re-opening the case. Can't you understand that fact?

Did you actually read this?

but you just insinuated that it was

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Let me put this as simply as possible so you'll understand his political motivation for going public - which he should not have done and he's catching a lot of heat for it, even from his boss who advised him not to.

1. Clinton wins and they find nothing - Comey's politically safe.

2. Clinton wins and they find something - The Republicans go ape**** but Comey's covered his ass.

3. Trump wins and they find something - Comey's politically safe.

4. Trump wins and they find nothing - The Democrats go ape****.

James Comey is a republican.

Public or not the fact remains that Hillary Clinton is currently under criminal investigation by the FBI for breaking the rules on national security. If Trump somehow miraculously wins, than she only has herself to blame, she put herself there.

Chula Vista · 10-30-2016, 01:56 PM

I said political motivation for going public. Not political motivation for re-opening the case.

If Comey follows proper Justice Department protocols he potentially gets into serious hot water with the GOP and most likely gets fired.

By not following protocol his only potential problem will be with the DNC.

Can't make it any more black and white than that. That's the very definition of covering your ass.

William_the_Bloody · 10-30-2016, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

I said political motivation for going public. Not political motivation for re-opening the case.

If Comey follows proper Justice Department protocols he potentially gets into serious hot water with the GOP and most likely gets fired.

By not following protocol his only potential problem will be with the DNC.

Can't make it any more black and white than that. That's the very definition of covering your ass.

His motivation for going public is most likely the result of him cracking under the pressure of having to reopen a criminal investigation on a candidate that is about to be elected President, not because he is a Republican. I would not want that pressure, and I am sure that he wishes the new evidence had not materialized.

Nevertheless, public or not, the fact remains that Hillary Clinton is currently under criminal investigation by the FBI for breaking the rules on national security. She put herself there, and if she is found innocent she will be cleared of the charges, so long as new evidence does not arise.

Chula Vista · 10-30-2016, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody

His motivation for going public is most likely the result of him cracking under the pressure of having to reopen a criminal investigation on a candidate that is about to be elected President, not because he is a Republican.

Bull****. You're proving to be very naive when it comes to politics. His boss had already advised him not to go public. So he ignores his boss because he's under pressure? Don't be so obtuse.

He looked at all of his options based on how the election might turn out and chose the option that's the least potentially damaging to his career - even though it went against his boss and his departments long standing protocols.

Let's move on to something else.

William_the_Bloody · 10-30-2016, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Bull****. You're proving to be very naive when it comes to politics. His boss had already advised him not to go public. So he ignores his boss because he's under pressure? Don't be so obtuse.

He looked at all of his options based on how the election might turn out and chose the option that's the least potentially damaging to his career - even though it went against his boss and his departments long standing protocols.

Let's move on to something else.

Yes, but that doesn't have anything to do with him being Republican. Some people make bad decisions under pressure. The route he has just taken is probably the most damaging to his career, not the least.

For what it's worth, I am doubtful the new evidence will show a smoking gun, but they have obviously found something of merit, to reopen the case.

So as it stands now, Hillary Clinton is currently under criminal investigation by the FBI for breaking the rules on national security, if she found innocent, she will cleared of the charges, unless new evidence arises.

Chula Vista · 10-30-2016, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody

Yes, but that doesn't have anything to do with him being Republican.

Again, you are being naive. Why is bad for his career? Explain that one to me.

- If Clinton wins he's OK with the GOP for breaking the news before the election.

- If Clinton loses he's a hero to the GOP for influencing the election

Blank. · 10-30-2016, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Again, you are being naive. Why is bad for his career? Explain that one to me.

- If Clinton wins he's OK with the GOP for breaking the news before the election.

- If Clinton loses he's a hero to the GOP for influencing the election

Wouldn't his career be over. I mean I doubt any Republicans are going to be like, "they fired you? Come here, I'll give you a job." Unless something was worked with someone before hand behind the scenes.

Chula Vista · 10-30-2016, 03:59 PM

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Wouldn't his career be over. I mean I doubt any Republicans are going to be like, "they fired you? Come here, I'll give you a job." Unless something was worked with someone before hand behind the scenes.

If Trump wins and they find nothing in the emails he will most likely be asked to step down (get fired) by The Department of Justice because there will be a massive outcry by the middle and the left that Comey acted in a partisan way to affect the election outcome.

In Clinton wins he'll escape unscathed although his reputation will take a hit.

Uh oh. The plot thickens. It's been uncovered that the FBI has had the emails since the beginning of the month yet Comey waited 4 weeks before going public?

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Suddenly, the figure at the center of the 2016 presidential race isn't even running for office.

James Comey's revelation Friday that the bureau is reviewing newly discovered emails that might be linked to Hillary Clinton's private server made the FBI director's unusual actions the focus on Sunday news programs and on the campaign trail.
The new emails were found weeks ago, law enforcement officials told CNN Sunday. But the FBI didn't disclose them until Friday, raising questions about why the information was kept under wraps and then released just days before the election.
Clinton's allies lambasted Comey -- characterizing him as inappropriately acting outside Justice Department protocol and against the wishes of his superiors -- as they sought to shame him into revealing more details about what, exactly, the FBI has discovered.
"He might have taken the first step of actually having looked at them (the emails) before he did this in the middle of a presidential campaign, so close to the voting," said Clinton's campaign chairman.

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Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	I said political motivation for going public. Not political motivation for re-opening the case. If Comey follows proper Justice Department protocols he potentially gets into serious hot water with the GOP and most likely gets fired. By not following protocol his only potential problem will be with the DNC. Can't make it any more black and white than that. That's the very definition of covering your ass. __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”