hillary clinton 4 prez

**Goofle** · 10-14-2016, 06:32 AM

I cannot be bothered to read through every post on this thread, but it simply boggles my mind that ANYBODY can support Hillary after everything we have seen. She is the most corrupt and criminal politician that I have ever come across, and the most lacking in compassion.

djchameleon · 10-14-2016, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Goofle

I cannot be bothered to read through every post on this thread, but it simply boggles my mind that ANYBODY can support Hillary after everything we have seen. She is the most corrupt and criminal politician that I have ever come across, and the most lacking in compassion.

You say that and there are other people that say that also that she's robotic and doesn't show emotions yet you post a youtube video about how friendly she gets along with the media.

That goes directly against what you are saying and what other Hillary haters are saying.

Just come out and admit it that you hate her on a personal level. It's a bias you have against her.

I can say that about Trump from my end of things. It doesn't matter what comes out about Trump that's scandal related I will believe it the same way that you believe all of Hillary's scandals with and without evidence.

**Goofle** · 10-14-2016, 07:29 AM

I don't hate her because I think she did something, there is no hearsay as far as Hillary is concerned. She deleted 33,000 emails - all of which are individual crimes. Other emails have been leaked, we can see them. It's not hearsay. The events definitively happened.

Also, being friendly with the media hardly goes counter to my claim that she lacks compassion (which is of course an opinion), it simply shows that she's friendly with the people who control her public image.

djchameleon · 10-14-2016, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Goofle

I don't hate her because I think she did something, there is no hearsay as far as Hillary is concerned. She deleted 33,000 emails - all of which are individual crimes. Other emails have been leaked, we can see them. It's not hearsay. The events definitively happened.

The hearsay part of the whole email scandal is that you don't know what were contained within those emails. You can't just read the ones from wikileaks and make assumptions that the other emails contained the same things or worse.

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Originally Posted by Goofle

Also, being friendly with the media hardly goes counter to my claim that she lacks compassion (which is of course an opinion), it simply shows that she's friendly with the people who control her public image.

It does go against your claim. You claim that she lacks compassion and is impersonal pretty much but the video footage that's right there in your eyeball shows otherwise. Also she knows how to talk to the media, surprise surprise. She's been a politician for years. It comes with experience. Talking to the media isn't even a big deal as you or the guy in that video are making it out to be.

**Goofle** · 10-14-2016, 07:39 AM

Dude, she deleted 33,000 emails after receiving a congressional subpoena. AFTER. Each individual deleted email is a crime. It doesn't even matter what was in those emails. Politifact considers Trump's claim to be "Half True", which is about as damning as you can get going by their history of fact checking

And lacking compassion doesn't mean you can't be friendly. Two different things. I'm thinking more about defending alleged rapists, laughing about it years later and all of the other stuff regarding Bill Clinton's alleged sexual assault charges.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 10-14-2016, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Goofle

And lacking compassion doesn't mean you can't be friendly. Two different things. I'm thinking more about defending alleged rapists, laughing about it years later and all of the other stuff regarding Bill Clinton's alleged sexual assault charges.

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Terrapin_Station · 10-14-2016, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Goofle

Dude, she deleted 33,000 emails after receiving a congressional subpoena. AFTER. Each individual deleted email is a crime.

Why should it be a crime, though?

djchameleon · 10-14-2016, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Goofle

Dude, she deleted 33,000 emails after receiving a congressional subpoena. AFTER. Each individual deleted email is a crime. It doesn't even matter what was in those emails. Politifact considers Trump's claim to be "Half True", which is about as damning as you can get going by their history of fact checking

Show me the link from Politifact stating that his claim is "Half True".
Also what was his claim anyways?

If each deleted email is a crime, why didn't the FBI find enough evidence to charge her then?

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Originally Posted by Goofle

And lacking compassion doesn't mean you can't be friendly. Two different things. I'm thinking more about defending alleged rapists, laughing about it years later and all of the other stuff regarding Bill Clinton's alleged sexual assault charges.

Defending alleged rapists is part of her job as a lawyer. She didn't want to defend him but her boss made her take the case.

Just in case you don't know the details about it and are just going off of talking points from other sources.

what other stuff are you referring to when you say regarding Bill Clinton's alleged sexual assault charges? You are a little vague with that.

Key · 10-14-2016, 10:15 AM

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Is this your first election? Been this way forever.

This is such a cop out reasoning that it's stupid. Are you insinuating we are not allowed to push for a difference? I get that you're too old to give a ****, but saying this type of thing is both irritating and offensive to the younger generation.

djchameleon · 10-14-2016, 10:18 AM

I don't think it's about pushing for a difference. The type of change that would be needed would requirement a shit load of people. There just aren't enough that currently care about making changes to the current system that we are in.