Key

It's not been proven that she's innocent so what else should she be called? And I didn't say suspected, she sent emails on a private server making it not suspected. The fact that she wasn't charged as a criminal doesn't mean she's innocent.

Chula Vista

Ki, one last time. She was investigated thoroughly by some of the best investigators and criminal lawyers in the country who tried everything in the book to find any actual LAWS she broke. They didn't find anything so she wasn't charged.

What the hell is so hard to not understand about this?

Please don't respond with "Well just because they didn't find anything doesn't mean she didn't break the law."

And again! She wasn't proven innocent of anything because she was not charged with anything.

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on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away
and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

Key

Well, since you said it for me, I don't have to say it.

I find it odd that you actually believe she's as innocent as she plays it off. It's quite shocking really.

Chula Vista

No, what's odd is that you're claiming a person is guilty of something without an ounce of backing it up with exactly which laws they broke?

And she's not as innocent as she plays it off. She's innocent in the eyes of the criminal justice system.

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“The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well,
on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away
and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

Key

She is guilty. Why would she have admitted to the mistakes over and over again if she truly believed it was an innocent act?

The Batlord

It is not black and white because neither you nor anyone else who would be willing to talk actually knows whether or not she has committed any crimes.

nb4 you say "So you're saying she's guilty just cause she wasn't found 'not guilty'?" because that is not the point. The point is that you are using faulty logic to jump from "She was never found guilty" to "She is innocent". My beliefs about her guilt or innocence are not the issue.

You are of below average intelligence. To explain what is wrong with that feels like telling someone how to walk. I know how to walk, I do it everyday with minimal difficulties, and yet it's such a natural and obvious thing that if asked to explain walking I would stop, make a funny face in consternation, and then look down at my legs as I slowly walked across the room so that I could actually put into words what should feel obvious.

You literally do not know the definition of the word "criminal".

Criminal | Definition of Criminal by Merriam-Webster

Notice that the first definition does not require any sort of criminal proceedings. So not being found guilty does not make a criminal not a criminal. Not that it matters, as you are obfuscating the issue by arguing a point that is meaningless. Whether she is your definition of a criminal or not is so ****ing pointless that you should be beaten to death. What matters is whether or not she actually committed a crime, you airhead.

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Frownland

Chula's head is so far up Hillary's ass that he tastes her food before she does.

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Key

Batty pretty much laid out what I've been trying to get at this entire time, yet Chula believes Hillary is the lady in shining armor. Not being proven innocent doesn't keep you from being labeled as a criminal, shown through my example of if someone robbed a store, and didn't get caught. You're still a criminal for committing the act whether you are labeled as such or not.

Terrapin_Station

You have both far more faith in anyone we've put into office and far less faith in average Joes than I do.

And the snobby picking on janitors is particularly telling.

The Batlord

Then I can only assume you're a shut-in who does not talk to people on any kind of regular basis, and never in any depth, because people are ****ing stupid. Sure our politicians are often downright unqualified for their jobs, but Joe Sixpack still elects them and does nothing to change the system. Joe has received the government that he deserves and yet you want to give him even more decision-making power?

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