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Old 06-07-2016, 05:17 PM   #41 (permalink)
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lol in islam it is sooo different. people have so much respect for converts. because like how the **** would put themselves through this **** with their own free will?
Yeah, but unlike islam, Judaism isn't a super strict religion. To the casual observer it is. But most rules are not enforced anymore if at all. Like keeping kosher is seen as just a remnant of the very old religion that Judaism is. The hardest part of the religion is just learning to speak hebrew. Something after your bar mitzvah you really don't need any longer.
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Yeah, but unlike islam, Judaism isn't a super strict religion. To the casual observer it is. But most rules are not enforced anymore if at all. Like keeping kosher is seen as just a remnant of the very old religion that Judaism is. The hardest part of the religion is just learning to speak hebrew. Something after your bar mitzvah you really don't need any longer.
hebrew is cool though. they're offering hebrew classes at my university. i'm thinking about signing up after i'm done with persian and then turkish maybe. but yeah theres a lot of similar vocabulary with hebrew and arabic.
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you make it sound like jewish people look down on non-jewish people. which from the jewish people that i have known throughout my life, is the furthest from the truth. i don't much about the religion itself though. and i don't really know any religious jews so again... i'm not sure about this from a religious perspective.
The people? No. One of my two best friends is a Jew, and all the Jewish people I have known have basically been atheists in all but name. But I think that's because the world has ****ed them over so ridiculously that they treat everything, including their religion, with a certain detached, humorous nihilism.

This of course does not apply to the kind of uber-Jews that steal Palestinian land because they believe that the Torah grants them the indisputable right to own anything granted to them in their little book. But most Jews in the Western world are far more secular than this.

But the religion itself is totally xenophobic. Thank god it doesn't dominate the world.
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The people? No. One of my two best friends is a Jew, and all the Jewish people I have known have basically been atheists in all but name. But I think that's because the world has ****ed them over so ridiculously that they treat everything, including their religion, with a certain detached, humorous nihilism.
That's me. Lol
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The people? No. One of my two best friends is a Jew, and all the Jewish people I have known have basically been atheists in all but name. But I think that's because the world has ****ed them over so ridiculously that they treat everything, including their religion, with a certain detached, humorous nihilism.

This of course does not apply to the kind of uber-Jews that steal Palestinian land because they believe that the Torah grants them the indisputable right to own anything granted to them in their little book. But most Jews in
the Western world are far more secular than this.

But the religion itself is totally xenophobic. Thank god it doesn't dominate the world.
well yeah i agree with all you said basically

but at the same time all religions are to some degree xenophobic, no? christians and muslims both believe that if you're not part of their religion you will go to hell? i mean i guess there are exceptions (in islam, at least) but you get what i'm saying.
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hebrew is cool though. they're offering hebrew classes at my university. i'm thinking about signing up after i'm done with persian and then turkish maybe. but yeah theres a lot of similar vocabulary with hebrew and arabic.
Aren't they both derivatives of the same language?
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From my understanding that is because Jew **** is all about tribalism, where they could give a **** if any non-Jew goes to hell (or the Jew-version of hell where you just cease to exist), cause they're not Hebrew and ****. Maybe there's something in Jewish tradition to make me wrong, but Jew...ism, just sounds like pure xenophobia. Yeah, they're not about proselyting, but that's more out of snobbishness than any kind of understanding.
That's ok, that still makes them less annoying.
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Aren't they both derivatives of the same language?
yeah arabic and hebrew are both semantic languages and also the only 2 semantic languages that are still spoken today
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yeah arabic and hebrew are both semantic languages and also the only 2 semantic languages that are still spoken today
That's what I thought. Ok.
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well yeah i agree with all you said basically

but at the same time all religions are to some degree xenophobic, no? christians and muslims both believe that if you're not part of their religion you will go to hell? i mean i guess there are exceptions (in islam, at least) but you get what i'm saying.
Yes, but Judaism is based in a time period far earlier than Christianity or Islam, when tribalism was even more prevalent. The Jewish faith is less horrific to the world merely because it does not proselytize, but its tenets are quite possibly more primitive and barbaric.

So far as I know, there isn't a New Testament Biblical or Quranic tenet that says that a woman who has been raped in a city is to be stoned to death, since she consented to the sex, otherwise she would have been heard crying out and been saved, whereas a woman raped in the countryside is not to be stoned to death, since there aren't people around to hear her scream.

The Torah may not be warlike (or it might be, I don't know), but it is certainly barbaric.
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