Tumblr, Otherkin, and Political Correctness Overkill

Zhanteimi · 11-26-2016, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

bigoted ****head white men

Yes. Only white people are bigots.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 11-26-2016, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I think the whining about "PC" has gotten wayyy worse than something like "otherkin" ever was

People think they have a blank check to say racist and sexist things because "don't be PC bro" or "I'm just telling it how it is"

It's at the point where bigoted ****head white men have a persecution complex

None of this is happening though is it?

I see a lot of people pointing out the double standards but that's about it.

Last line pretty much says it all.

Tristan_Geoff · 11-26-2016, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I think the whining about "PC" has gotten wayyy worse than something like "otherkin" ever was

People think they have a blank check to say racist and sexist things because "don't be PC bro" or "I'm just telling it how it is"

It's at the point where bigoted ****head white men have a persecution complex

Right and I support PC culture to that extent. I remember the other day I was having a conversation with my mom, and she said something about us having some "Indian" in our blood. Confused, I asked "Native American?" and she scolded me for being PC. The ****? There are two cultures with the same ****ing name. How the hell is it PC in the first place to even try and differentiate them. As for anti-PCers claiming that people shouldn't be offended so easily, they should take a look in the ****ing mirror. If you curse in front of one, they get offended. If they see anti-religious imagery, they get offended. If they see people of other faiths, they get offended. Can't everyone learn to just treat everyone with respect and decency? There are extents to PC of course, all this made up bull****, but if for instance someone transgender wants to go by different pronouns than what they look like, why shouldn't you respect that?

**Frownland** · 11-26-2016, 10:32 AM

Agreed. I think that the right gets triggered and whiny way more than the left does.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 11-26-2016, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Bill Burr brings up a lot of great points in this interview because he's the ****ing man,

So much this. One of my friends put me onto him recently not by introducing him as a hilarious comedian, but by instead showing me some of his smartest bits that I liked more for just how much sense it made than for the actual comedy. Although he is still funny as ****.

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Agreed. I think that the right gets triggered and whiny way more than the left does.

Both sides are pretty awful. I think the awfulness makes up the minority of both sides though (racists and alt-right for the right, and PC fembots for the left.)

Trollheart · 11-28-2016, 11:18 AM

Best thing I ever heard (funniest, most stupid) was a guy in the UK who, according to my workmate who was there, was accused of "revving his car in a racist manner"!!! How on God's green Earth do you do that???

**Frownland** · 11-28-2016, 11:26 AM

I did a little bit of research and it sounds like a bs way of them trying to get his noisy ass car off the street.

Zhanteimi · 11-28-2016, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

this is about concrete disadvantages everyone who isn't a white male and/or born into wealth will deal with in their lives

Fuck that. Get your head out of your American ass. The world is full of non-whites, and there are plenty of countries where being white will put you at a disadvantage over the non-white populace.

As a white male, I will never ever ever be the equal of a Japanese man. Never. No matter how hard I work, no matter what I do, I will always be discriminated against. Real discrimination, too, like being refused a place to rent. Shit's legal here.

Paedantic Basterd · 11-28-2016, 03:43 PM

This is an article by my favourite psychologist and researcher, Jonathan Haidt, on the topic of safe spaces and trigger warnings, and I think it's a respectful take on the PC phenomenon.

How Trigger Warnings Are Hurting Mental Health on Campus - The Atlantic

In short, trigger warnings and safe spaces have been psychologically disproven. They make people feel comfortable, and they shelter them from discomfort, but they are fundamentally flawed because they enable phobias rather than helping people overcome them.

Systematic desensitization (exposure therapy) is the gold star treatment for phobias, anxiety disorders, and has proven useful in the treatment of OCD and PTSD. It involves gradual exposure to a feared stimulus (a trigger, if you will) in a safe environment. Haidt points out that the college environment IS that safe place to be exposed to fears, and by censoring the language used there, we are actually worsening the strength of individuals' aversion to words and ideas that they are GOING to have to face outside those walls. The world outside the lecture theatre is much less patient, less tolerant, less knowledgeable, and less understanding, and by continuing to swaddle the ears of our developing adults, we are not preparing them as best we can to function at their optimal capacity as adults. Nevermind the society on the outside of their personal battles.

**Goofle** · 11-29-2016, 06:27 AM

Jonathan Haidt is a bad ass.

11-26-2016, 10:32 AM	#244 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	Agreed. I think that the right gets triggered and whiny way more than the left does. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

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Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,992	Best thing I ever heard (funniest, most stupid) was a guy in the UK who, according to my workmate who was there, was accused of "revving his car in a racist manner"!!! How on God's green Earth do you do that??? __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

11-28-2016, 11:26 AM	#247 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	I did a little bit of research and it sounds like a bs way of them trying to get his noisy ass car off the street. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

11-28-2016, 03:43 PM	#249 (permalink)
Paedantic Basterd Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,184	This is an article by my favourite psychologist and researcher, Jonathan Haidt, on the topic of safe spaces and trigger warnings, and I think it's a respectful take on the PC phenomenon. How Trigger Warnings Are Hurting Mental Health on Campus - The Atlantic In short, trigger warnings and safe spaces have been psychologically disproven. They make people feel comfortable, and they shelter them from discomfort, but they are fundamentally flawed because they enable phobias rather than helping people overcome them. Systematic desensitization (exposure therapy) is the gold star treatment for phobias, anxiety disorders, and has proven useful in the treatment of OCD and PTSD. It involves gradual exposure to a feared stimulus (a trigger, if you will) in a safe environment. Haidt points out that the college environment IS that safe place to be exposed to fears, and by censoring the language used there, we are actually worsening the strength of individuals' aversion to words and ideas that they are GOING to have to face outside those walls. The world outside the lecture theatre is much less patient, less tolerant, less knowledgeable, and less understanding, and by continuing to swaddle the ears of our developing adults, we are not preparing them as best we can to function at their optimal capacity as adults. Nevermind the society on the outside of their personal battles.