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Old 09-12-2020, 11:33 PM   #721 (permalink)
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pretty clearly what I said was you don't need religion to be a reactionary
Nobody argued that.

We're arguing that the religions are bad for teaching people bad things.
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Old 09-12-2020, 11:40 PM   #722 (permalink)
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my position is that Mein Kampf by itself can not be "bad"

particular interpretations can be dangerous
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Old 09-12-2020, 11:44 PM   #723 (permalink)
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'bad' is a rather subjective label

Like I'm not sure which straight forward interpretation of the OT laws lead you to verify which element of your service..
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Old 09-12-2020, 11:46 PM   #724 (permalink)
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that pretty much demonstrates your fundamental misunderstanding of religion
Shows your fundamental misunderstanding of the point.

You can literally interpret anything to mean anything you want by cherry picking it enough but when you get right down to it the religions are literally teaching people bad things as doctrine the same way something like Mein Kampf did.
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Old 09-12-2020, 11:57 PM   #725 (permalink)
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scripture inherently requires you to interpret it, it's not a straight forward instruction manual or a coherent ideology

smart mother****ers can spend years and years in school studying religious texts
What are you basing this on other than the fact that you live in a secular society?

I assure you the bible wasn't meant to be as abstractly followed as you think.
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That paints the idea that scripture is devoid of any true meaning with regard to how the author meant it and how it's typically interpreted by religious devotees, which clearly isn't true.

The more you make this type of argument the more your ignorance on the topic is exposed.
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Old 09-13-2020, 12:26 AM   #727 (permalink)
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Because it's self contradicting nonsense written by multiple people with multiple agendas.

A lot of them pushing bad ideas that don't leave a lot of room for interpretation but people cherry pick out because it doesn't look good in a more evolved and secular society.
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Old 09-13-2020, 12:29 AM   #728 (permalink)
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Oh, and that it was written a long ass time ago in a language that's really hard to translate.
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according to some polls about 40% of Muslims even in the Middle East say there's more than one way to read the text
That leaves an even greater amount, about 60% (if my math is correct), who don't.
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Islam wasn't moderate, Muslims were.
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