The Islam Thread

[OccultHawk]

Thou shall not discriminate

[OccultHawk]

Because everything is the same obvs

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by elphenor

prejudice/bigotry is by definition an unreasonable distinction

Then why do you listen to The Fall instead of Bon Jovi?

[grindy]

Originally Posted by elphenor

why would I need to do mental gymnastics to justify a take that is not even controversial outside this primarily internet "skeptic" sphere?

what is my political motivation even supposed to be?

If something could play into the hands of bigots it can't be true.

[grindy]

You are hopeless.

[Lucem Ferre]

Saying Islam is bad isn't bigoted.

Saying Muslims are bad is bigoted.


But please, tell us more about how bad and bigoted we are as you bitch about all the black people coming into your convenient store listening to music you don't like.

[SGR]

I've never understood feminists who embrace, celebrate, or serve to apologize for Islam.

[OccultHawk]

Every religion is exactly the same.

[jwb]

Originally Posted by elphenor

ugh

foreign policy, history, economic circumstances etc. CREATE more fundamentalists

yes a very traditionalist practice of Islam is dangerous (as it would be with any religion)

but we know that a more secular Islam is not only possible, but prevalent in some parts of the world, and in some parts of history

Originally Posted by elphenor

1) people practice Islam in a multitude of contradictory ways (a clear truth)

2) your politics and environmental circumstance will determine the type of Islam you practice (again so obviously true)

Therefore: the issue is political

... I think we're basically in agreement on the fact that foreign intervention creates more extremism. This is not an argument in favor of foreign intervention at all. I agree that is a failed policy.

But it seems like there's tendancy to over simplify that the intervention is the only reason there are extremists, whether you like it it not they're are cultural incongruities between the west and Islam that might make someone averse to modernity in their own way.

Like I mentioned we watched this thing happen domestically as well as abroad where religious groups rejected modernity and as a result became more extreme

[Frownland]

What's the final solution when it comes to Islam?