The Islam Thread

[jwb]

It also strikes me that the thing that actually created progressive religious people was criticism from secular society. 500 years ago there was no such thing as a progressive Christian or Muslim. The fact that people see it fit to reform the religion in order to preserve it is evidence of the fact that they're losing the culture war.

[Frownland]

*googles*

It's been exactly 500 years since Martin Luther's reforms....

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by Frownland

*googles*

It's been exactly 500 years since Martin Luther's reforms....

Catholic Church be like

[Frownland]

Fun fact: MLK was only whitewashed because americans mixed him up with Martin Luther and accidentally bought his books. Similar deal for George Washington Carver.

[jwb]

Originally Posted by elphenor

you're trying to justify your No True Scottsman in total bad faith

anything written in The Bible about Jesus could be subject to interpretation

no, you're just refusing to engage with reality.

Obviously anything is open to interpretation. Not all interpretations are equally compelling though. It's not surprising, when the text says kill any man who lays with another man, that most interpretations come out anti gay. That's a reflection of the text, simple as that.

[jwb]

Originally Posted by Frownland

*googles*

It's been exactly 500 years since Martin Luther's reforms....

ironically the reformation didn't actually question any of the parts of the Bible we don't like these days


Hence why the worst Christians in contemporary America are Protestant Evangelicals.

[jwb]

Except that it is and has been the way religion has been practiced for thousands of years. Only in the very recent death throes of religion has the trendy version of religion been to ignore most of what the text says and pretend that's just another way of reading it.

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by Frownland

Fun fact: MLK was only whitewashed because americans mixed him up with Martin Luther and accidentally bought his books. Similar deal for George Washington Carver.

The famous peanut farming slave owner.

[Neapolitan]

Originally Posted by jwb

It also strikes me that the thing that actually created progressive religious people was criticism from secular society. 500 years ago there was no such thing as a progressive Christian or Muslim. The fact that people see it fit to reform the religion in order to preserve it is evidence of the fact that they're losing the culture war.

Pretty sure Judaism, Christianity and Islam were criticized from the beginning. Take Noah for example, he was criticized for building an arc, that was during Global Warming version 1.0, or was the Younger Dryas Global Warming version 1.0?

[jwb]

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