The Islam Thread

[grindy]

Probably because you didn't get your little panties in a bunch then.

[OccultHawk]

I did make a crack that you can’t change your chromosomes and I do believe sex is almost always binary XX XY

I get that gender is different. I also think faux-trans is the new faux-bisexuality.

I also think there wouldn’t be so much transmania if we didn’t have such oppressive masculine and feminine sex assignments. And I’m generally wary of giving hormone blockers to 12 year olds but that between a kid and their parents.

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by elphenor

I think religion is silly the same as believing in ghosts or astrology

so I mean **** on it because it's funny and stupid, not because it's the root of any sociological problem

Black churches made sure you got Biden and not the Commie Jew.

[grindy]

Originally Posted by elphenor

I think religion is silly the same as believing in ghosts or astrology

so I mean **** on it because it's funny and stupid, not because it's the root of any sociological problem

It can be both. Also "root" is a big word. The world is complicated and intertwined in complex ways. It's dumb to say that capitalism or religion or conservatism or whatever is the root of all problems. You can still oppose all that **** in principle while acknowledging that many factors are always involved.

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by grindy

It can be both. Also "root" is a big word. The world is complicated and intertwined in complex ways. It's dumb to say that capitalism or religion or conservatism or whatever is the root of all problems. You can still oppose all that **** in principle while acknowledging that many factors are always involved.

I get that if you’re a hetero white male in America poverty is basically the only way you can be oppressed and that will color my lenses as it will but goddamn if it doesn’t seem like capitalism IS the cause of every ****ing problem.

If there’s any exception in my mind it’s the subhumanization of children.

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by elphenor

Bernie came across as a class reductionist maybe because his white supporters kinda ****ing suck sometimes

the campaign could have been heavier on intersectional politics, I'm not totally sure

Everything about Bernie’s platform would’ve benefited blacks 100 times more than Bidenism. Blacks voting against their own self-interest to get Obama’s VP was race reductionism. It’s the same way with LBJ. They all love him for the civil rights act while his actions in Vietnam was the heaviest expression of white supremacy in modern American history.

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by elphenor

Bernie came across as a class reductionist maybe because his white supporters kinda ****ing suck sometimes

the campaign could have been heavier on intersectional politics, I'm not totally sure

anyhow bigotry is def not unique to religion, nor do I think religion is even the cause

You might want to read up on India’s caste system.

[SGR]

Originally Posted by elphenor

I think the anti-religion rhetoric is tactically harmful to the left as well

it's super classist, it inspires bigotry, it rallies the Right, it ignores the history religion has had in fighting imperialism world wide etc

What anti-religion rhetoric is the left engaging in? (Besides the occasional anti-Jewish rhetoric which is actually generally just anti-Zionism)

(and this thread is slowly becoming just another generic politics thread)

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by elphenor

white people consistently vote against their own self-interest for identity politics reasons

in fact, they may have also just done it with Biden

Nobody said they don’t.

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by elphenor

heiarchial class systems exist everywhere

I didn’t say they didn’t.