The Christianity Thread

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by 1blankmind

Yes. But your not everyone. There's a reason so many people become born again christians. They need something to instill those morals in them. Without it, they'd be lost and continue in the negative direction there life was going.

The Bible: giving sociopaths guidance since... whenever the hell it was written.

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Originally Posted by DeadChannel

No negative morals? None at all? Not one?

Well, hindsight 20/20 that bit of a ridiculous statement. It's by no means a perfect piece of literature. But nothing can be perfect.

[Frownland]

Some good ones here

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I'm done with this thread. If you can't see my point, then you're lost. And if you're lost, that's Adonai's problem.

[Frownland]

I can see your point. Can you see mine?

[DeadChannel]

Originally Posted by 1blankmind

Well, hindsight 20/20 that bit of a ridiculous statement. It's by no means a perfect piece of literature. But nothing can be perfect.

Pretty far from perfect. There's the odd part about love thy neighbor or whatever, but there's also hella baby murder vibes going on.

[DeadChannel]

Originally Posted by 1blankmind

I'm done with this thread. If you can't see my point, then you're lost. And if you're lost, that's Adonai's problem.

Don't be lazy. Despite what most of the Christians on this site claim, you don't inhabit some sort of moral high-ground, and leaving because someone doesn't immediately agree with you (gasp!) makes it seem like you are unable to substantiate your claims, which, all thing considered, is probably true. Having read a pretty good part of the bible, I see no reason to think that the morals that it presents are somehow better than those presented by secular sources. Actually, quite the reverse. A lot of those morals are pretty ****ed up.

[Chula Vista]

Originally Posted by 1blankmind

It has no negative morals.

Bull****.

No. 1:St Paul’s advice about whether women are allowed to teach men in church:
“I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.” (1 Timothy 2:12)

No. 2: In this verse, Samuel, one of the early leaders of Israel, orders genocide against a neighbouring people:
“This is what the Lord Almighty says... ‘Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’” (1 Samuel 15:3)

No. 3: A command of Moses:
“Do not allow a sorceress to live.” (Exodus 22:18)

No. 4: The ending of Psalm 137, a psalm which was made into a disco calypso hit by Boney M, is often omitted from readings in church:
“Happy is he who repays you for what you have done to us – he who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.” (Psalm 137:9)

No. 5: Another blood-curdling tale from the Book of Judges, where an Israelite man is trapped in a house by a hostile crowd, and sends out his concubine to placate them:
“So the man took his concubine and sent her outside to them, and they raped her and abused her throughout the night, and at dawn they let her go. At daybreak the woman went back to the house where her master was staying, fell down at the door and lay there until daylight. When her master got up in the morning and opened the door of the house and stepped out to continue on his way, there lay his concubine, fallen in the doorway of the house, with her hands on the threshold. He said to her, ‘Get up; let’s go.’ But there was no answer. Then the man put her on his donkey and set out for home.” (Judges 19:25-28)

No. 6: St Paul condemns homosexuality in the opening chapter of the Book of Romans:
“In the same way also the men, giving up natural intercourse with women, were consumed with passion for one another. Men committed shameless acts with men and received in their own persons the due penalty for their error.” (Romans 1:27)

No. 7: In this story from the Book of Judges, an Israelite leader, Jephthah, makes a rash vow to God, which has to be carried out:
“And Jephthah made a vow to the Lord, and said, ‘If you will give the Ammonites into my hand, then whoever comes out of the doors of my house to meet me, when I return victorious from the Ammonites, shall be the Lord’s, to be offered up by me as a burnt-offering.’ Then Jephthah came to his home at Mizpah; and there was his daughter coming out to meet him with timbrels and with dancing. She was his only child; he had no son or daughter except her. When he saw her, he tore his clothes, and said, ‘Alas, my daughter! You have brought me very low; you have become the cause of great trouble to me. For I have opened my mouth to the Lord, and I cannot take back my vow.’” (Judges 11:30-1, 34-5)

No. 8: The Lord is speaking to Abraham in this story where God commands him to sacrifice his son:
‘Take your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt-offering on one of the mountains that I shall show you.’ (Genesis 22:2)

No. 9: “Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord.” (Ephesians 5:22)

No. 10: “Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the cruel.” (1 Peter 2:18)

[Chula Vista]

Originally Posted by 1blankmind

If you can't see my point, then you're lost.

Classic holier than thou attitude. You Christians are batting a perfect 1.000 in this thread.

[kibbeh]

Originally Posted by 1blankmind

The bible is supposed to help. It has no negative morals. All people have one. I'd rather entrust myself to the bible then someone else for guidance.

are you for real