The Christianity Thread

[Zhanteimi]

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[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by mordwyr

The individual people in the Church who covered up the abuse and the Magisterium of the Church aren't the same thing.

So why hasn't the Pope led a purge of the Catholic church to root out all of the corruption and nepotism that led to these cover ups?

[Janszoon]

Originally Posted by mordwyr

The individual people in the Church who covered up the abuse and the Magisterium of the Church aren't the same thing.

True, those individuals are part of the collection of individuals that have made the Catholic Church such an awful organization for ages, while the magisterium is just the nonsense that the awful organization uses to justify its horrible actions.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by Janszoon

True, the those individuals are part of the collection of individuals that have made the Catholic Church such an awful organization for ages, while the magisterium is just the nonsense that the awful organization uses to justify it's horrible actions.

Ah but you see, they're different. Look inside and you will find the answer. Don't look outside or use the Internet though, that'll only get you bad answers.

[OccultHawk]

magisterium

What kind of retarded Dungeons and Dragons word is that?

[Paul Smeenus]

Originally Posted by Frownland

Ah but you see, they're different. Look inside and you will find the answer. Don't look outside or use the Internet though, that'll only get you bad answers.

I looked inside god's vagina, wasn't in there.

[DeadChannel]

Originally Posted by mordwyr

The individual people in the Church who covered up the abuse and the Magisterium of the Church aren't the same thing.

There is a distinct difference between systemic issues and individuals acting out. Sure, you can say that any individual instance of abuse or cover-ups is on the individuals who did those things, but at what point do you face up to the fact that the whole system is rotten and corrupt?

Again, actions don't happen in a vacuum. Considering that these types of things occured far more often in the church than in the rest of life, and considering that people in high up positions would have had to cover abuse up, I think it's safe to say that there's some particular factor within the church to blame.

At what point would you think that corruption had occured? Does the Pope himself have to know about it in order for there to be a problem?

[Zhanteimi]

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[Zhanteimi]

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[Frownland]

Originally Posted by DeadChannel

There is a distinct difference between systemic issues and individuals acting out. Sure, you can say that any individual instance of abuse or cover-ups is on the individuals who did those things, but at what point do you face up to the fact that the whole system is rotten and corrupt?

Again, actions don't happen in a vacuum. Considering that these types of things occured far more often in the church than in the rest of life, and considering that people in high up positions would have had to cover abuse up, I think it's safe to say that there's some particular factor within the church to blame.

At what point would you think that corruption had occured? Does the Pope himself have to know about it in order for there to be a problem?

*takes shot*