The Christianity Thread

[DeadChannel]

Originally Posted by Neapolitan

The Batmobile is fantasy, nothing on it would function the way it is depicted as in the movies. So it could look any way the designer wants. The Pope-Mobile is practical, there are no bells and whistles like the Batmobile has to make it look cool. it is what it is, a Fiat or whatever car model it is now.

Naw I've seen people make real life models of the bat mobile and it's still way cooler.

[Key]

Originally Posted by Janszoon

It's the whole standing thing. If Batman stood up and waved to people while Robin drove, it would be a lot less cool.

Standing should be punishable by death.

[Chula Vista]

Originally Posted by RoxyRollah

Why not ask him yourself?

Your asking me to ask a question of something I 100% don't believe in. Why not answer the questions for once instead of being all pseudo vague?

Where was God on 12/26/2004 and in the weeks that followed when over a quarter million people were killed and many thousands more went missing and were never accounted for?
Millions of families all over the planet were screwed over badly that day. Why?

There's only two possible answers.

a) There is no God

b) God doesn't give a **** about all of those innocent people that were killed that day. Either that or he's a pretty damn bad designer considering how unstable and messed up the planet he created is.

Or maybe he wants another do over cause he screwed it up a second time?

[RoxyRollah]

Really it was a polite way to ask you not to rant.

[Chula Vista]

Originally Posted by RoxyRollah

Really it was a polite way to ask you not to rant.

Ok. I'll politely ask you again. Will you please answer the question based on what you believe?

[Janszoon]

Originally Posted by Ki

Standing should be punishable by death.

Yeah make those people sit down. In an electric chair.

[RoxyRollah]

Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Ok. I'll politely ask you again. Will you please answer the question based on what you believe?

I didn't see it there was a question.I swear to god Im not ****ing with you or trolling what did you ask?

[Chula Vista]

Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Where was God on 12/26/2004 and in the weeks that followed when over a quarter million people were killed and many thousands more went missing and were never accounted for?
Millions of families all over the planet were screwed over badly that day. Why?

There's only two possible answers.

a) There is no God

b) God doesn't give a **** about all of those innocent people that were killed that day. Either that or he's a pretty damn bad designer considering how unstable and messed up the planet he created is.

Or maybe he wants another do over cause he screwed it up a second time?

Originally Posted by RoxyRollah

I didn't see it there was a question.I swear to god Im not ****ing with you or trolling what did you ask?

Uhm....

[Neapolitan]

Originally Posted by Chula Vista

In the old testament, God pretty much got whatever he wanted. He parted seas, brought about plagues, turned people into salt, spoke through burning bushes, and drowned the planet. In the new testament he took more of a back seat, yet promised to rain hell fire upon the world at some point in the future. In the multitude of centuries since these texts were written down by over 40 different men, over the course of thousands of years, God's gone AWOL except on an individual person scale to those who've "seen the light".

What happened to all of the epic grandeur?

Where was God on 12/26/2004? Or 1/12/2010? Or 3/11/2011?

In ancient history God was this:



In modern times God's been reduced to this:




Did God decide to become shy once technology could actually record events in real time?

This guy had it nailed hundreds of years before Jesus was even born.

“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”

Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Your asking me to ask a question of something I 100% don't believe in. Why not answer the questions for once instead of being all pseudo vague?

Where was God on 12/26/2004 and in the weeks that followed when over a quarter million people were killed and many thousands more went missing and were never accounted for?
Millions of families all over the planet were screwed over badly that day. Why?

There's only two possible answers.

a) There is no God

b) God doesn't give a **** about all of those innocent people that were killed that day. Either that or he's a pretty damn bad designer considering how unstable and messed up the planet he created is.

Or maybe he wants another do over cause he screwed it up a second time?

Basically your questions come from the Problem of Evil. I spend the night with insomnia trying to think the best way to present an answer for you. I don't know if this is the best video to address the question. It was one of the first I found.

Thomas Aquinas On The Problem of Evil


I had to look up 12/26/2004, because at first I didn't recognize what the date meant. Now I recall. I have a friend who does missionary work in India. He lives in India and visit here, from time to time. He told me stories what happened that day. It's truly a sad event.

[Chula Vista]

Originally Posted by Neapolitan

Thomas Aquinas On The Problem of Evil

Well, I'd rather not hear the theories of a Roman Catholic Priest. There's way too much bias involved. Plus his explanation comes off as making excuses for God choosing not to get involved.

Aquinas also said this: (didn't God say Thou Shalt Not Kill?)

With regard to heretics two points must be observed: one, on their own side; the other, on the side of the Church. On their own side there is the sin, whereby they deserve not only to be separated from the Church by excommunication, but also to be severed from the world by death. For it is a much graver matter to corrupt the faith that quickens the soul, than to forge money, which supports temporal life. Wherefore if forgers of money and other evil-doers are forthwith condemned to death by the secular authority, much more reason is there for heretics, as soon as they are convicted of heresy, to be not only excommunicated but even put to death. On the part of the Church, however, there is mercy, which looks to the conversion of the wanderer, wherefore she condemns not at once, but "after the first and second admonition", as the Apostle directs: after that, if he is yet stubborn, the Church no longer hoping for his conversion, looks to the salvation of others, by excommunicating him and separating him from the Church, and furthermore delivers him to the secular tribunal to be exterminated thereby from the world by death.

I found this on a Christian Apologist website.

Why does God allow Pain and Suffering:

To serve as a warning

Evil and suffering in the world can serve as a warning against breaking God's law, and then people can see the necessity of following God's truth. God's ways are right and good, and following them leads to security and safety. The consequences of disobeying God's Word are manifested in suffering. Therefore, suffering in the world easily serves as a demonstration of the need to follow God's Words, thereby vindicating what God has said.

To make a point

It is possible that God is simply allowing evil and suffering in the world to prove that rebellion against Him brings pain and suffering. God may be allowing sin to take its natural course in the world so that on the day of judgment God can say, "Do you see what rebellion against my words brings?" This may seem overly simplistic, but it may prove to be one of the reasons that God allows pain and suffering.

A couple of the reasons I can't get on board with the dude. Seems both insecure and egotistical from where I'm standing.