The Christianity Thread

[Zhanteimi]

Originally Posted by Xurtio

I really have no idea about that in my brain but my heart has trouble believing that.

Stalin, Hitler, Turkey, the American govt. All secular powers.

[Zhanteimi]

Originally Posted by Xurtio

They don't seem to have a word for it in the bible. Rather they describe it other words (something like "take by force").

It's condemned a little bit. You have to pay the father of your victim and marry the victim. The problem is that it completely ignores the perspective of the victim because women don't really have a say, in general, in the bible.

In history. The Bible is an historical document. Just because it's in the Bible doesn't mean it's necessarily praiseworthy. Guess what else is in the Bible? Jews who want to return to their slavery in Egypt because they miss the Egyptians' emissions. Apparently, they have cumshots like horses.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by mordwyr

I could be wrong about this, but I think the greatest genocides have occurred at the hands of secular powers, not religious ones.

Stalin, yup. Let's see if Putin can outrank him on the high score chart.

Originally Posted by mordwyr

In history. The Bible is an historical document.

The Bible is a document of historical fiction my dude. It's set around events that are real and fills in a lot of gaps with stories.

[Xurtio]

That's the problem. The Bible allows broken social memes generated by desperate societies to persist in a time when they're no longer needed.

Originally Posted by mordwyr

Stalin, Hitler, Turkey, the American govt. All secular powers.

Hitler and the US invoked Christianity.

[Zhanteimi]

Originally Posted by Frownland

It's set around events that are real and fills in a lot of gaps with stories.

Yes, indeed. For example, the Song of Solomon. It's poetry, not based on real events but inspired by Solomon's love for his sister, his one true love he could never have.

[Zhanteimi]

Originally Posted by Xurtio

Hitler and the US invoked Christianity.

But they were not the Church. They were secular by definition.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by mordwyr

Yes, indeed. For example, the Song of Solomon. It's poetry, not based on real events but inspired by Solomon's love for his sister, his one true love he could never have.

There's a joke to be made here, but I think I'm just going to type this sentence.

[Chula Vista]

Originally Posted by mordwyr

Yes, indeed. For example, the Song of Solomon. It's poetry, not based on real events but inspired by Solomon's love for his sister, his one true love he could never have.

Dude had 700 wives and 300 mistresses but still wanted to **** his sister?

Originally Posted by mordwyr

But they were not the Church. They were secular by definition.

How convenient. I'm going to kill, rape, and pillage in the name of God and the Bible - but it doesn't count in your worldview?

Talk about having your cake and eating it too. Typical hypocritical Christian justification mindset.

[Zhanteimi]

I don't know Solomon's mind, of course, but I assume he wanted his sister because he loved her, not just wanted to bang her. That's what I get from the reading of the poetry.

[Frownland]

"The one true love he could never have" is just a questionable way to phrase it imo.