24%, 25%, 10%, 8%, 3%

You didn't answer my question. What if only 50% of the people asked decide to write them a check? Do they slash SS benefits to the elderly in half overnight?

Again..Im being ****ed. so please don't belittle me on this ****ing issue because you know not what it's like to be denied everything the government offers as assistance, because you owe so much. So there are nights in my life I have starved because I didn't qualify for fs, I got shut down outta college because of the debt. Don't sit there and say they aren't ****ing me.They are. They put an 81,000.00 lien on me for no reason. Dude I literally own nothing because I am branded some kinda tax cheat. My car in someone elses name my house same deal my ****ing cell phone all of that. Not because I am paranoid boo but because my government deemed me worthless and throw away because I had the misfortune of finding my mother dead on the floor when I was 8. Tell me again how they just wanna help. PLease.

I didn't answer you because I don't have an answer for you homie. I wish I knew what to say to fix it I don't I just know we didn't have income tax til 35 and **** was ok.

My 86 year old mother worked her entire adult life and paid her taxes. She now survives off of her SS and Medicare benefits. You have a problem with that?

No I do not and I should hope the money that I write the govement in check should go to your mother. I am the type of woman that sends 5 bucks to the little old lady in a ****in letter when her sob story hits the ****ing news. Not because 5 bucks is a large sum because it's all I can afford, and I genuinely give a **** about my fellow man. I CAN'T HARDLY FEED MYSELF. WHY ARE THEY TAKING 100 bucks outta my check every two weeks. Man and Im a manager no....this is wrong.

Oh my fuck I wasn't even talking about that ****. Learn to read and make sure you're railing against something I said before you blather on for ten minutes.

Why are you a mod, I ask myself that sometimes, cause you know what when asked I said yea Frown would be good. But lately all you do is insult the **** outta people. Bitch I read just fine. IT was in response to the last part of your statement about geez man that sux. I was letting you know how bad it sucks.

I don't have a problem with people who paid into into it getting exactly what they paid. No more. I definitely have a problem with SS being put in the general fund, and that it has no opt out clause. It would work better if it functioned like a 401K where an individual wouldn't be able to get at that money until retirement anyway. That way it's in the person's name, not the government's coffers. But we didn't have 401Ks when that whole system was set up. SS was never meant to be the sole support in retirement, either. I'm sure your mother has other means than just SS.

Roxxy, if you don't misinterpret what I say every time I say something, I won't tell you that you're not reading my posts correctly.

That particular situation you're in sucks but it was. Not. What. I. Was. Discussing.

You need to do some reading before spouting off.

History of the Income Tax in the United States

The US population has more than tripled since 1913. And defense and infrastructure costs have risen exponentially. Defense spending in 1913 was $427 million dollars. In 2010 it was $847 billion. That's just about a 2000% increase.

BRO no matter how much reading I do it's not gonna change my mind on income taxes being theft. INCOME TAXES. I didn't say state taxes land taxes and all that. That's taxing me for ****ing working and being a productive member of society.

Mmhmm welcome to the real world.

Single mom with 3 kids. And got duped by a church late in life to donate a ****load of her savings to help repair the churches roof.

Yes, she relies solely on SS to get by.

Well, in another 30 years or so something tells me you'll be happy to have that stolen money coming back to you in monthly checks from the big bad government. And them helping to pay your medical expenses as you get older.

Send me her address and I'll send a check. Because that's a sad state of affairs and I actually give ****ing ****. BUT keep your fingers outta my check so I can actually send Momma Vista that 5,10,15 dollars or whatever.

**** I wanted to send Paul money when his head was hacked open he just wouldn't take it. Trollheart offered to pay for my hep c meds because he gives a ****. That's how **** is supposed to work, on a ****ing personal level man to man woman to woman human to human, and I don't need big brother to tell me to be a ****ing good person.

Well, too bad there's a lot of not so nice people out there that counterbalance those with a heart.

And Momma Vista is doing fine. Me and my two sisters make sure of that.

I bet she needs a menu change from all that chef boyardee. ;)


Bro there aren't enough people to counterbalance but the good people who sit back and do nothing can over power a tyrannical government that lies, to them steals from them, and tries to kill them. I want to live in a world where no one is hungry or poor when there is more then enough, but people are people and the good hearted ones should really be less lazy and more organized and maybe just maybe we could do away with the unnecessary taxes.

Why are they unnecessary? You've mentioned it but haven't quite explained that part.

ANSWER ME WHY THEY HAVE TO STEAL MY HARD EARNED MONEY THAT I LITERALLY UNLOAD TRUCK PALLETS HEAVIER THEN I AM? I DON'T SEE THESE BUREAUCRATS HELPING ME UNLOAD THIS TRUCK OF ****ING HELIUM TANKS TALLER THEN ME.

Ask me and tell me what you want it for, really want it for and Im more than happy to write a check.

Lol that's what taxes are. Everybody contributes to fund things like social security, infrastructure, government workers, etc. Budgets on the federal, state, and local level are all open to the public by law. Do a little research on them and it will tell you quite plainly where taxes are distributed. Now go write a check.

I payed my taxes this year, and all of my working life. Wheres my refund?Never got one. Where's my stimulus never got one.

You keep saying this. Again, what about all of the people who won't be willing to write a check? The system would implode. It has to mandatory. Has to.

Think about the tea party revolt a few years back. Imagine how many of those folks, who given the chance at the time, would have simply stopped writing checks to the government. Our economy and infrastructure would have been destroyed with a matter of weeks. And we'd probably still be in the throes of a massive recession with a stock market completely tanked.

Learn how to file your taxes better I guess? That'll get you a better return.

Change your exemption status if you want a refund. Talk to your tax man.

I was saying that maybe the good might over take the evil if we try it this way cause I still believe people are good at heart.

I have a lawyer.

I have a lawyer. I CANT TALK TO THEM IT VIOLATES MY POA agreement.

Roxy, stop saying 1935. That's incorrect. The 16th Amendment, which made the income tax the law of the land, was passed in 1913. See, this is what I'm talking about. I've already pointed out that you're wrong on this one little thing, and yet you're still spouting it. If you can't get that one little detail correct, then why should we, or you for that matter, believe that your arguments are built on logically solid ground? How do we know that all of the information that you have built your political stances on are not likewise built on lazily researched bunk?

Stop stealing my money hippy. And you may not take my guns either.

Maybe some day we'll stop stealing the futures of young people.

Good joke^

Since you are single you can claim either 0 or 1 as a filing status. 0 means you get a bit more in each paycheck but most likely nothing back at the end of the year. If you claim 1 they will take more taxes out each pay period but you'll most likely get a refund from the IRS.

Go to work. Make very little money and steal a burger on yer way out cause all that money goes to yer bills and the goverment.....slave.

Roxy, I'm trying to get you to understand that the income tax was not put into effect in 1935. Can you just accept that fact and start saying 1913?

Oh yea sure.Thats not an issue my numbers getting mixes up I can correct that error and admit wrong info.But taxation is theft.

Ronald Reagan is dead.

Funny, I'm watching the Americans which is set in the early 80's and remembering a lot about the Reagan years. It's crazy how he's held in such high regard to this day when as more years go by you realize the guy's tenure resulted in a lot of really bad stuff for this country.

- He cut taxes for the rich but increased them for the middle class.
- He tripled the national debt.
- Contra-gate.
- He funded cash and weapons to Islamic terrorist groups including Bin Laden.
- Unemployment soured during his time in office. The rich got richer and everyone else suffered for it.
- His administration basically ignored AIDS and helped it become an epidemic.
- He gave amnesty to over 3 million undocumented immigrants so the rich could hire cheap labor.
- He attacked unions every chance he got. Remember how he fired about 12,000 air traffic controllers because they were striking for fair wages?
- He raided SS which resulted in SS rates being raised by large levels.
- He fostered the whole "Greed is Good" mentality of Wall Street and Big Banking.

If you mean leaving these things in the hands of corporations, no. A corporation is no different from the federal government. What I mean is private, as in keeping things in the hands of individuals and small communities (like taking care of your neighbors, not welfare).

This^

Bro they keep my refund every year apply it to an imaginary debt. Stop sticking up for the taxman. Im being ****ed just less ****ed because I have a TAX LAWYER.