Internet censorship and the death of free speech.

Zhanteimi · 05-30-2016, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Lilja

So...If there is no income tax, how do you pay for socially used systems such as busses, the police, motorways, government, welfare, public schoolsector, etc.

You don't. You keep everything private. Take the citizens' money out of the hands of the government. Consumption tax would be plenty to cover the costs of building roads and defending the borders, which are the only two things the federal government should be doing.

RoxyRollah · 05-30-2016, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by mordwyr

You don't. You keep everything private. Take the citizens' money out of the hands of the government. Consumption tax would be plenty to cover the costs of building roads and defending the borders, which are the only two things the federal government should be doing.

A****INGMEN.

Has anyone else looked into what they spend our money on besides me.... 4000,00 on the effects of Swedish massage on rabbits. GO **** YOURSELF.

Side note to the tsa Holding people up at the airports is the new thing rn. LITERALLY HIGHWAY ROBBERY....

Zhanteimi · 05-30-2016, 05:46 AM

Like I said, keep everyone fat on pretend bread and their minds soft on imaginary circuses and you can set up tyranny right under people's noses. And when it's pointed out, all they'll say is wtf lol burp and then change the channel.

RoxyRollah · 05-30-2016, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by mordwyr

Like I said, keep everyone fat on pretend bread and their minds soft on imaginary circuses and you can set up tyranny right under people's noses. And when it's pointed out, all they'll say is wtf lol burp and then change the channel.

It's because they have lived under tyranny their whole lives and never known it. Same as me. And you know what's funny when I lived outside of the US in many other countries, and on different continents save for the us. I was happy as a lark to go back to our version of tyranny. However it's been a slow rise of overt tyranny that's why people are sleeping through it. 9-11 started it.

You know what is wild I watched Enemy of the State last night with Will Smith, what that came out in 99 if only we looked at that as a documentary because 2 years later they asked us to give away all our privacy and rights in the name of terror and we ****ing just handed them over like cowards. I was laughing because that film kinda warns you about what they had the capablity to do in the ****in 90s . The **** we have now is insanity.

We have gone from covert tyranny to overt tyranny. And its funny to me being called a conspiracy theorist, because it's part of American make up man that's why there is a second amendment because the US isn't exempt from becoming like china. And there will come a day, and it appears it's fast approaching where people like myself will be jailed for our opinions, on things, politically, and environmentally, so to speak. I wish I could find that clip of Hillary at one of her ralleys screaming we need more camps for adults in this country... Lmao bitch you mean labor camps.... ahahhah... hang on lemme look.

Here ya go.

camps you all run.... ahahah you mean labor camps... what are they gonna give me a disney hat while they lead me to the gas chambers?

Nobody but me, finds this disturbing? I mean really. She is telling us her ****ing plan, and people are clapping like we are all gonna be sitting cross legged singing around a camp fire with her communing with nature.

**Frownland** · 05-30-2016, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah

Hate speech is unconstitutional bro. ( I meant to answer you days ago brother.) The very idea that you can be locked up for your words, and thoughts is a very slippery slope it gets into thought crime territory. Last time I checked words only hurt feelings. And as long as what you are saying isn't killing, jailing, or taxing someone it's perfectly legal. It doesn't mean you aren't free to walk away from someone spewing the ****. But it's perfectly legal for people say what they want to whomever they want, and the government can't step in, in any way.

Brother they censor the press that's laughable they direct the press on what to say. Because the media is part of the long arm of big brother. It's part of their propaganda machine. So when they kidnapped 9 members of the press during the 08 elections on a plane no less that's censorship. No sir that's shanghaied.

This is the only one I sorta agree with you on. Taxation of income is theft. The IRS, needs to be audited them damn selves. However I agree yes churches should be taxed on certain things. Land tax, and various city taxes. However, taxation on tithes, or donations from the congregation is unthinkable. It should be up to the church community to audit the pastors, of the church, because there is indeed separation between church and state. and the government has no say in that under the first amendment.

Uh, did you read someone else's post? I said freedom of speech ends if there was a valid threat. Learn to read.

And as someone with journalistic experience the whole government forcing the press's hand conspiracy is very cute.

Lilja · 05-30-2016, 09:30 AM

Don't people who don't make that much end up paying more tax with a consumtion tax since they live more "hand to mouth" and buy more rather than save more? Just a question.

Just to say, we have a consumption tax where I live instead of a fluctuating sales tax such as in the US: But we also have income tax. We did not replace one with the other.

The Batlord · 05-30-2016, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah

We didn't start paying income taxes until '35 and we had all that jazz before.

THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU JUST SAID! THEY ARE TAXING US FOR WORKING. MAN WHAT THE ****. Oh wait are you one of those carbon taxers? I AM NOT PAYING TO BREATH thank you.

Very much incorrect. We had temporary income taxes several times in the 1800s, but it was in 1913 that the 16th Amendment passed and we had a permanent one. I don't know where you got 1935 from.

Chula Vista · 05-30-2016, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by mordwyr

You don't. You keep everything private. Take the citizens' money out of the hands of the government. Consumption tax would be plenty to cover the costs of building roads and defending the borders, which are the only two things the federal government should be doing.

So privatization is your answer?

RoxyRollah · 05-30-2016, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Uh, did you read someone else's post? I said freedom of speech ends if there was a valid threat. Learn to read.

And as someone with journalistic experience the whole government forcing the press's hand conspiracy is very cute.

Nigga they put them on a plane in hopes of a conversation with both candidates plane takes off candidates not on the plane but at a hilton near by, and then they were told that they weren't coming at all. That's freedom of the press?

Also some journalists are just dumbasses.

not all of them are in on it. Small club.

RoxyRollah · 05-30-2016, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

So privatization is your answer?

Why do you want the government up your ass so bad?

I believe he means privacy for the PEOPLE.

05-30-2016, 09:30 AM	#286 (permalink)
Lilja Music Addict Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 521	Don't people who don't make that much end up paying more tax with a consumtion tax since they live more "hand to mouth" and buy more rather than save more? Just a question. Just to say, we have a consumption tax where I live instead of a fluctuating sales tax such as in the US: But we also have income tax. We did not replace one with the other. Last edited by Lilja; 05-30-2016 at 09:35 AM.

05-30-2016, 05:46 AM	#283 (permalink)
Zhanteimi Mord Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Tokyo Posts: 4,873	Like I said, keep everyone fat on pretend bread and their minds soft on imaginary circuses and you can set up tyranny right under people's noses. And when it's pointed out, all they'll say is wtf lol burp and then change the channel.