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Old 05-23-2016, 03:27 PM   #221 (permalink)
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In fact, he's basically saying that he would support US being put into concentration camps and turned into soap. I mean, we certainly fail to worship god by his standard, so would it not be justified for God to allow the devil to put us all in the gas chambers?

Seriously, what separates us from the Jews in Auschwitz?
Not Donald Trump

I didn't think the thread was political enough.

Edit: By us, do you mean you and me, as in heathen scum, or, like, America?

Edit edit: Holy **** you and me as in the Batlord and me. We're in cahoots. What is the world coming to?
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Old 05-23-2016, 03:37 PM   #222 (permalink)
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She brought out Serious Batlord. Nobody wants that.
How many Batlords are there?
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Old 05-23-2016, 03:39 PM   #223 (permalink)
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Not Donald Trump

I didn't think the thread was political enough.

Edit: By us, do you mean you and me, as in heathen scum, or, like, America?

Edit edit: Holy **** you and me as in the Batlord and me. We're in cahoots. What is the world coming to?
Yes, I meant you and me. And I always thought your asshole looked exquisite, so I don't see why we can't join forces.

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I've killed so many, but the Dimension Wars of 3426 caused so much chaos that we may never know.
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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And the one currently posting in this thread.

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Old 05-23-2016, 03:45 PM   #225 (permalink)
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And the one currently posting in this thread.

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I thought I was only praying to only one Batlord. Now I don't know what to believe. This changes everything.
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Old 05-23-2016, 04:15 PM   #226 (permalink)
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I call bull****. The Christian god is supposed to be all-powerful and all-knowing. So logically, nothing has ever happened, is happening, or will ever happen without God's knowledge and consent. If God couldn't stop it, he wouldn't be all-powerful.
Free will. He could stop whatever whenever however, but that doesn't mean He does. To deny us our free will is to turn us into puppets. He doesn't want puppets.
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Old 05-23-2016, 04:17 PM   #227 (permalink)
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He knows all that there IS TO KNOW, which means currently. He can look into the future if he wanted, but only if he deems necessary, like the Book of Revalations.
Incorrect. For God there is no past, present, or future. Time is a characteristic of our cosmos, and our cosmos is finite. He is outside time--or, rather, time is within Him. Time is irrelevant to Him; therefore, He sees all things at all times at once.
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Free will. He could stop whatever whenever however, but that doesn't mean He does. To deny us our free will is to turn us into puppets. He doesn't want puppets.
I already put up a whole post about how an all-powerful, all-knowing god existing alongside freewill is impossible. Please address that before I post all of that **** again.
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Hopefully you've learned your lesson on starting religious threads like this one.
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Free will. He could stop whatever whenever however, but that doesn't mean He does. To deny us our free will is to turn us into puppets. He doesn't want puppets.
There are a number of problems with this defence. I'll go through them:

1) The contention is that free will exists, and therefore evil exists because humanity is imperfect. However, in Christianity, it is usually believed that heaven is a perfect place free of suffering and hardship. Then, does free will exist in heaven?

If free will does exist in heaven, then that proves that there are ways that God could prevent suffering without infringing upon free will. Why then does he not use these tactics on earth.

If free will does not exist in heaven, then it isn't heaven at all.

2) Any imperfection in hummanity is ultimately the intentional result of God's actions. Yes, the serpent made eve eat from the tree of knowledge, but God is omnipotent, so he could have totally prevented that. Therefore, by virtue of his omnipotence, evil is still the intentional, fully consenting fault of God.

3) This goes back to the first point: surely God has other means by which he can stop suffering. Why didn't God just stop the gas from flowing into the chambers? Why didn't he make it so that there was a miscount in the votes, so that Hitler wasn't ever elected? For that matter, why didn't he kill Hitler outright? He seems to have no problems with that in the rest of the bible.

4) Not all suffering is the direct result of human free will. Why does God allow natural disasters to happen?
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