Brexit? Yay or Nay.

Lisnaholic · 05-26-2019, 08:33 PM

Immigration is a concern to many people in the UK, but it's not necessarily linked to anti-Muslim sentiment. To me, it's not so much about cultures and Muslims, it's about sheer numbers and infrastructure. Here are some world population stats:-

Average world pop density: 59 people per sq. km
UK pop density: 275 per sq. km
USA for comparison purposes: 36 per sq. km

Our pop density is 4.5 times the world average, 7.5 times that of the USA. Faced with those figures, it makes sense to put strict limits on immigration imo. After all, the UK isn't agriculturally self-sufficient, it has a housing shortage and overburdened systems of education and health. It's a small island with more than enough people on it already. That's partly why many people worry about politicians in Brussels dictating an immigration policy to us that is more open than we'd like. Brexiteers, of course, exploit that fear in a xenophobic way which cranks up their popularity, but only because Remainers are turning a blind eye to a situation that is not just statistical, but perceived on the ground every day: why is everywhere I go so crowded?

Oriphiel · 05-26-2019, 08:48 PM

Dear Hawk,

Cultures don't exist in a vacuum.

Even those tiny culturally stagnant isolated inbred micronations that like to shoot arrows at moronic missionaries didn't just pop into existence one day

90% of everything cool in a given culture was caused or at least greatly influenced by its interactions with other cultures

It can't stop, and it won't stop, regardless of how many arbitrary borders scared rich people constantly throw up in an effort to divert attention from the fact that they do no actual work yet have control over virtually all of the revenue

Sincerely,
Deal with it

Oriphiel · 05-26-2019, 08:52 PM

Oh, and Fluff

About the milkshakes

You're right

They should be throwing bricks

OccultHawk · 05-26-2019, 09:40 PM

I said I’m for 100% open borders to the United States which is my own country.

Sorry that I think other countries should be able to make up their own minds

And since you’re such an expert ori how many countries have you actually traveled to and lived in?

Oriphiel · 05-26-2019, 09:56 PM

Remember when China and Japan both underwent periods of cultural isolation? Worked out real fuckin' great for them, huh? They totally didn't ignore the fact that most of their cool **** was handed down to them from India, and then end up falling hilariously behind the rest of the world.

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

And since you’re such an expert ori how many countries have you actually traveled to and lived in?

Not as many as I've anecdoted anecdotes.

**** nations. **** nationalism in general. Connecting everyone regardless of arbitrary borders is the fastest way for everyone to see how everyone else is living, and to decide for themselves how they want to live.

You don't like Islamic extremists? Guess what sort of environment consistently gives birth to the most extremists? I'll give you a hint, it has to do with endless border wars instigated by ****ty politicans that thrive on nationalist policies resulting in pockets of disgruntled refugees exploited by charismatic figures that feed off of the cultural stagnation they've found themselves in.

OccultHawk · 05-26-2019, 10:07 PM

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Not as many as I've anecdoted anecdotes

None?

Oriphiel · 05-26-2019, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

None?

Yes, Hawk. I've been to no countries. You got me.

OccultHawk · 05-26-2019, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Oriphiel

Yes, Hawk. I've been to no countries. You got me.

Put your money where your mouth is. You love the world go see it son.

The Batlord · 05-26-2019, 10:23 PM

I mean plenty of people have seen the world and still have no business talking about it so why are you dickwaving? You having explored the world gives you experience but doesn't make your opinions desirable. You honestly just sound like you're trying to sound like a guy running his victory lap while everyone sucks his cock.

Oriphiel · 05-26-2019, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Put your money where your mouth is. You love the world go see it son.

Who said I love the world? I love the craziness of the world, and the endless creative ammunition it creates. There's sort of a difference.

Btw

Whippersnapper: "Zep sucks."

Old Papa Chules: "OH YEAH? AND HOW MANY STADIUMS HAVE YOU SOLD OUT RECENTLY?"

Whippersnapper: "None. And they still suck."

05-26-2019, 08:33 PM	#891 (permalink)
Lisnaholic ...here to hear... Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: He lives on Love Street Posts: 4,444	Immigration is a concern to many people in the UK, but it's not necessarily linked to anti-Muslim sentiment. To me, it's not so much about cultures and Muslims, it's about sheer numbers and infrastructure. Here are some world population stats:- Average world pop density: 59 people per sq. km UK pop density: 275 per sq. km USA for comparison purposes: 36 per sq. km Our pop density is 4.5 times the world average, 7.5 times that of the USA. Faced with those figures, it makes sense to put strict limits on immigration imo. After all, the UK isn't agriculturally self-sufficient, it has a housing shortage and overburdened systems of education and health. It's a small island with more than enough people on it already. That's partly why many people worry about politicians in Brussels dictating an immigration policy to us that is more open than we'd like. Brexiteers, of course, exploit that fear in a xenophobic way which cranks up their popularity, but only because Remainers are turning a blind eye to a situation that is not just statistical, but perceived on the ground every day: why is everywhere I go so crowded? __________________ "Am I enjoying this moment? I know of it and perhaps that is enough." - Sybille Bedford, 1953

05-26-2019, 08:48 PM	#892 (permalink)
Oriphiel Ask me how! Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: The States Posts: 5,354	Dear Hawk, Cultures don't exist in a vacuum. Even those tiny culturally stagnant isolated inbred micronations that like to shoot arrows at moronic missionaries didn't just pop into existence one day 90% of everything cool in a given culture was caused or at least greatly influenced by its interactions with other cultures It can't stop, and it won't stop, regardless of how many arbitrary borders scared rich people constantly throw up in an effort to divert attention from the fact that they do no actual work yet have control over virtually all of the revenue Sincerely, Deal with it __________________ ---------------------- \|---Mic's Albums---\| ---------------------- ----------------------------- \|---Deafbox Industries---\| -----------------------------

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Oriphiel Ask me how! Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: The States Posts: 5,354	Oh, and Fluff About the milkshakes You're right They should be throwing bricks __________________ ---------------------- \|---Mic's Albums---\| ---------------------- ----------------------------- \|---Deafbox Industries---\| -----------------------------

05-26-2019, 09:40 PM	#894 (permalink)
OccultHawk one-balled nipple jockey Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dirty Souf Biatch Posts: 22,006	I said I’m for 100% open borders to the United States which is my own country. Sorry that I think other countries should be able to make up their own minds And since you’re such an expert ori how many countries have you actually traveled to and lived in? __________________ 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 Member of the Year & Journal of the Year Champion Behold the Writing of THE LEGEND: https://www.musicbanter.com/members-...p-lighter.html