The Batlord

No just **** democracy.

*looks at avatar*

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Cuthbert

Interesting developments today. May will resign as PM if the deal is voted through. But the DUP have said they won't vote for it so it looks very unlikely the deal will go through.

Lisnaholic

^ Very restrained of you to used the word "interesting", Fluff!

When I heard about Parliament's rejection of all eight possible Brexit options, the words that came to mind were pathetic, irresponsible and useless. The option that came closest to being approved was for a second referendum, but that still lost; 295 votes against, but only 268 for.

If we add May's deal to the list, we have nine routes forward and each one of them has been rejected by Parliament. What kind of governance is that?? ....and let's not forget that this stage of the Brexit negotiations was, across the board, described as the easy part, and that things would get tough after we have exited the EU.

What kind of tough should we expect? Medicine shortages, customs log jams are among possible emergencies that might require fast and effective action of a kind that Britain no longer seems capable of. We could be in for a landslide of demands for new, complex and controvertial legislation about trade. As just one small example, here's the tale of American chicken which hints at what our negotiating power on the world stage might win us in terms of post-Brexit trade deals. With luck it'll interest MBers on both sides of the Atlantic:-

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The Batlord

TBH at this point I'm waiting for a no deal Brexit like a douchebag watching his friend slip on something and now they're sliding and stumbling around trying not to fall on their ass and you're just so excited watching this drama and if they don't fall it'll all have been for nothing.

Dude, that's weird, I only just learned about chlorinated chicken a few weeks ago cause we have a cat with a very sensitive digestive system who can't really eat anything right now except for unchlorinated chicken. Like, I don't even know why you would chlorinate chicken and yet America does it to all the chicken and that's why Europe doesn't want to buy our chicken? Weird.

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Cuthbert

They are voting on a section of May's deal at 2:30pm. Some Tory MPs who voted against it twice before have said they will vote for it today (Jacob Rees Mogg, IDS, Dominic Raab, all Scottish Tories...). Labour and the DUP won't be voting for it but there will be some Labour rebels who do. I trust that the DUP will not. However it certainly looks like it's going to be closer than the past two votes.

It feels a bit tense.

Cuthbert

The nos have it, the nos have it.

Lost by about 60.

Lisnaholic

^ Yes, Parliament has now rejected every variant of Brexit that has been put forward in the last three years, as well as rejecting the option of a second referendum. About the only option that hasn't been put to an indicative vote (if I am keeping track correctly) is the option to remain. If I were speaker Bercow, I'd get working on that right now.

In the meantime, D&G's attitude is prob shared by the entire population of Europe, the rest of the world, and, I imagine, a growing proportion on frustrated Brits:
For anyone still following this sorry saga, these are now the options going forward:- https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46393399

For anyone weary of all the convoluted parliamentary wrangling, I was going to make a clever parallel with Mr. Gannet's phone-in question, but it's not as relevant as I thought. Still, why waste a nice bit of comedy:-



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^ Yep, happens sometimes that you hear of something for the first time, then days later come across the same idea again. I'm hearing for the first time that a cat could have a prob with chlorinated chicken. I thought they could digest almost anything.

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Cuthbert

The demand for a new referendum is growing and a general election will be coming. Tory MPs are starting to realise this.

I can't see any other way out of this.

OccultHawk

The EU might help y’all’s asses figure it the **** out

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Cuthbert

All four options voted down again

Can't wait for Lisna's post. Headed for no deal and they still can't agree on something. What a piss taking disgrace