Brexit? Yay or Nay.

RoxyRollah · 05-15-2016, 06:52 PM

Ok, why do you think this^?

The Batlord · 05-15-2016, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah

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RoxyRollah · 05-15-2016, 07:11 PM

Sssshh Signs is on.

William_the_Bloody · 05-20-2016, 01:36 PM

There is so much ideological rhetoric and so little facts coming from both sides of the debate that's it hard to say.

The political implications are a bit worrisome to a degree, but I think as long as the UK can keep the pound and control it's own rate of immigration it should be okay.

The next time their is another global financial crisis indebted countries like Spain, Italy and even France could take a nosedive, and the UK doesn't want to be tied to the Euro when it takes its plunge.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 05-20-2016, 03:07 PM

I'm not decided. Probably just gonna spoil my vote.

**Goofle** · 05-20-2016, 06:54 PM

I don't see any positives from staying in the EU.

William_the_Bloody · 05-20-2016, 06:59 PM

Well I can't vote on it, and I'm not educated on the issue enough to have a solid opinion, but I would say.

The UK will vote no for the following reasons....

1) There is too much of a cloud of uncertainty on the economic implications of leaving.

2) Despite the loss of some political sovereignty to Brussels, as one of the economic powerhouses of the EU, Britain will ultimately have more influence if they stay within the EU.

3) The Brexit representatives (Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage) are colourful populists, but I'm unsure the general public would be willing to hand them over the power to lead them out of the EU.

(Boris Johnson would ultimately challenge Cameron for leadership of the party if he wins, and a yes vote would be a huge boon for UKIP)

4) and the big one...

Alex Salmond has threatened another referendum if the UK chooses to leave. Unfortunately for Britain, the Scottish Independence Party holds the utopia card.

(meaning; having never been in full governing power like the Tories and Labour, they can offer up a great utopian imagery of a Scotland filled with green rolling hills, where everyone has great wages and comfortable lives)

the potency of this pill will only increase if the UK exits and goes into an economic slump. Scottish nationalists will argue that they will be better off under the EU, and with the old generation of loyalists dying away, they will most likely persuade the Scots to vote for independence if they can secure entry into the EU.

The British Empire is long dead. To go it alone, really means to go it alone like Iceland and Norway, and with Welsh and Scottish Independence on the rise, it could be a risky gamble.

The UK is not unified like it was under the Victorian era, that Britain, is long gone.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 05-20-2016, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody

Alex Salmond has threatened another referendum if the UK chooses to leave. Unfortunately for Britain, the Scottish Independence Party holds the utopia card.

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He needs to shut the fuck up and get over it. It's over. Scotland said no. Deal with it.

William_the_Bloody · 05-20-2016, 08:57 PM

I agree with you, unfortunately living in a country under the threat of Quebec separatism all my life, I can say they never give the F up.

If Alex Salmond & Nicola Sturgeon could hold a referendum everyday until they get a yes vote they would do it.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 05-21-2016, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody

I agree with you, unfortunately living in a country under the threat of Quebec separatism all my life, I can say they never give the F up.

If Alex Salmond & Nicola Sturgeon could hold a referendum everyday until they get a yes vote they would do it.

That is true, this guy sums it up very well.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=UBLRD0MzVGs

05-20-2016, 01:36 PM	#34 (permalink)
William_the_Bloody Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Sunnydale Cemetary Posts: 2,093	There is so much ideological rhetoric and so little facts coming from both sides of the debate that's it hard to say. The political implications are a bit worrisome to a degree, but I think as long as the UK can keep the pound and control it's own rate of immigration it should be okay. The next time their is another global financial crisis indebted countries like Spain, Italy and even France could take a nosedive, and the UK doesn't want to be tied to the Euro when it takes its plunge.

05-20-2016, 03:07 PM	#35 (permalink)
~~Cuthbert~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Black Country Posts: 8,827	I'm not decided. Probably just gonna spoil my vote.

05-20-2016, 06:59 PM	#37 (permalink)
William_the_Bloody Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Sunnydale Cemetary Posts: 2,093	Well I can't vote on it, and I'm not educated on the issue enough to have a solid opinion, but I would say. The UK will vote no for the following reasons.... 1) There is too much of a cloud of uncertainty on the economic implications of leaving. 2) Despite the loss of some political sovereignty to Brussels, as one of the economic powerhouses of the EU, Britain will ultimately have more influence if they stay within the EU. 3) The Brexit representatives (Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage) are colourful populists, but I'm unsure the general public would be willing to hand them over the power to lead them out of the EU. (Boris Johnson would ultimately challenge Cameron for leadership of the party if he wins, and a yes vote would be a huge boon for UKIP) 4) and the big one... Alex Salmond has threatened another referendum if the UK chooses to leave. Unfortunately for Britain, the Scottish Independence Party holds the utopia card. (meaning; having never been in full governing power like the Tories and Labour, they can offer up a great utopian imagery of a Scotland filled with green rolling hills, where everyone has great wages and comfortable lives) the potency of this pill will only increase if the UK exits and goes into an economic slump. Scottish nationalists will argue that they will be better off under the EU, and with the old generation of loyalists dying away, they will most likely persuade the Scots to vote for independence if they can secure entry into the EU. The British Empire is long dead. To go it alone, really means to go it alone like Iceland and Norway, and with Welsh and Scottish Independence on the rise, it could be a risky gamble. The UK is not unified like it was under the Victorian era, that Britain, is long gone.

05-20-2016, 08:57 PM	#39 (permalink)
William_the_Bloody Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Sunnydale Cemetary Posts: 2,093	I agree with you, unfortunately living in a country under the threat of Quebec separatism all my life, I can say they never give the F up. If Alex Salmond & Nicola Sturgeon could hold a referendum everyday until they get a yes vote they would do it.