College Campuses - A War on Free-Speech and Diversity of Opinion?

Zhanteimi · 05-09-2016, 08:14 PM

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DwnWthVwls · 05-09-2016, 08:15 PM

I could do more, but tbh it's not my focus. There are so many problems in the world, and while I do appreciate them I can't fix them all. I do my part by not contributing to racism, and promoting tolerance, respect, and appreciation for all people. It pales in comparison to the things Roxy and DJ do but it's all I have time for. And honestly, race is still a huge issue, it's much harder for your typical white guy like myself to have the same impact as Roxy or DJ who might be welcomed into certain communities with a little less skepticism or hate.

I don't think it's clear what the answer is right now. Improving race relations would be a huge step, beyond that I'm at a loss. O and dismantling some of the systems that contribute to keeping certain groups oppressed, but that would mean people have to acknowledge their existence.

Neapolitan · 05-09-2016, 08:24 PM

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In the video the no violence chants were there to kind of keep the crowd calm and for the protesters to not get violent. He shouldn't be trying to push up on an angry mob like that. You know how black people get about having hands put on them and not being up in their face like that. He's lucky that guy had so much restraint.

Thugs Attack And Beat Up Marine Because "Black Lives Matter"

The Batlord · 05-09-2016, 08:26 PM

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Specifics?

Education first, I guess. Hard for somebody to get a job that can get them out of the ghetto when their only choices are burger flipper or gangbanger. So all we gotta do to get the ball rolling is overhaul the entire education system.

Personally, I'd like to see less focus on the idea of getting every single student into college, and ignoring all other aspects of a student's development. Whenever someone doesn't get those test scores, or can't afford college, or just plain doesn't connect with how modern institutionalized learning does or doesn't apply to their own lives, then they basically become discarded by America's education system, since they are no longer following the one and only path it cares about.

Vocational training should go hand in hand with math and science, along with everything from how to balance a checkbook to what in the living hell is equity?

Zhanteimi · 05-09-2016, 08:28 PM

How would you overhaul the education system? What's wrong with it that needs to be overhauled?

**Frownland** · 05-09-2016, 08:36 PM

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How would you overhaul the education system? What's wrong with it that needs to be overhauled?

Encouraging critical thinking is something that's grossly absent in our public schools and students are in turn required to regurgitate information without understanding it.

The Batlord · 05-09-2016, 08:36 PM

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How would you overhaul the education system? What's wrong with it that needs to be overhauled?

Specifically? No idea on the first question, and like I said about the second, the one-size-fits all goal of getting everybody into college and ignoring anyone who doesn't. At least from when I was in school, all they did was teach you to take tests (class tests, state tests, the SATs), and if you had any ambition other than going to college, then the school really had no way to help you, other than some overworked, under-qualified school counselor who might find you a dusty pamphlet or something. That doesn't work, at least for a clearly large percentage of the population.

djchameleon · 05-09-2016, 09:18 PM

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You might have seen in one of my previous posts that I mentioned the school to prison pipeline. Batty is on the right track with the education part of it. Private prisons that get paid for bed occupancy is profiting off of young minorities being locked up. If there were better opportunities for young people to get jobs that paid a living wage more so than just a minimum wage that would also help to curb drug dealing as the only option to take care of their families putting them at risk to be locked up.

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Thugs Attack And Beat Up Marine Because "Black Lives Matter"

Cointelpro! It most likely isn't even that deep though. Any nutter can go around and claim they do doing something because of BLM. It doesn't mean they are actually part of the movement that is peaceful. BLM screwed up by even creating that as their tag line. They left it wide open for people to think that they are only pro black. They should have said Black Lives Matter Too. That is what their intention is but everyone else is stuck in their ways and only want to view it as a Black Pride organization/movement when it is much more complex than that.

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Education first, I guess. Hard for somebody to get a job that can get them out of the ghetto when their only choices are burger flipper or gangbanger. So all we gotta do to get the ball rolling is overhaul the entire education system.

Personally, I'd like to see less focus on the idea of getting every single student into college, and ignoring all other aspects of a student's development. Whenever someone doesn't get those test scores, or can't afford college, or just plain doesn't connect with how modern institutionalized learning does or doesn't apply to their own lives, then they basically become discarded by America's education system, since they are no longer following the one and only path it cares about.

Vocational training should go hand in hand with math and science, along with everything from how to balance a checkbook to what in the living hell is equity?

They are trying to overhaul the education system at the moment but they are going about it the completely wrong way. They think Common Core is the answer but it's just really a waste of time.

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Encouraging critical thinking is something that's grossly absent in our public schools and students are in turn required to regurgitate information without understanding it.

There are a few schools that are based around critical thinking and they don't even have regular tests. A friend of mines was lucky enough to be in those type of schools growing up. She didn't take her first test until she was trying to get into college.

DwnWthVwls · 05-09-2016, 09:58 PM

Missing the bigger picture here. The school system coukd be amazing but how do you get the kids there or force them to learn? My friend teaches health/gym in a pretty bad school district and the stories i hear make it sound like a socisl support system would be the best thing for education even before improving the curriculm. When a 9-10 year old has the weight of a ****ed up parent(s) issues preventing them from physically making it to school or being able to focus when they are there then what is actually being taught goes out the window.

Zhanteimi · 05-09-2016, 10:00 PM

So...change starts with the family, not education?

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