The IDIOTIC new North Carolina Gender law

**Janszoon** · 04-09-2016, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis

im gonna take the conservative side on this one, it makes sense to me that if you're biologically born a man you should use the men's bathroom even if you identify as a woman. I don't get why this is an issue, i don't get why using the bathroom has to be a statement on your sexual identity or preference. for practical purposes, it's best we stick with the biological requirement rule.

Society has made it a statement on sexual identity by segregating restrooms in the first place. There's nothing practical about it, it's just an arbitrary social construct.

Paul Smeenus · 04-09-2016, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis

What the hell.. it's like that south park episode is happening in real life.

im gonna take the Eric Cartman side on this one

ftfy

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Originally Posted by Black Francis

it makes sense to me that if you're biologically born a man you should use the men's bathroom even if you identify as a woman.

So, if this person enters when you're taking a whiz

...You're not seeing the hella-awkward position that puts her in? Well maybe *you* don't because you're clearly not thinking this through but I assure you that the vast majority of the western world does.

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Originally Posted by Black Francis

I don't get why this is an issue, i don't get why using the bathroom has to be a statement on your sexual identity or preference. for practical purposes, it's best we stick with the biological requirement rule.

*pacepalm*...ok, let's try this again...

Imagine your sister or mom or whatever was in the ladies room, when this person comes in

What would be her (your sister/mom/whatev) reaction? She'd probably either ask him to gtfo of the ladies room, run out of the room screaming, or (high probability) hit on him. NONE of those are an acceptable result, even the 3rd scenario is EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE RESULT from what this lunkheaded law is attemping to achieve.

And you never did address the issue of enforcement. Are you going to post sentries at every facility to check their birth certificate and/or their junk? Before you answer that, keep in mind that *you* would have to carry a birth certificate and present it everytime you needed to pee.

Even the dunderheads that wrote this bill don't have an answer for this question. smh

Isbjørn · 04-09-2016, 10:33 AM

Right now all I have to add is "listen to Paul"

Paul Smeenus · 04-09-2016, 10:42 AM

Thanks, Isbjørn

Fucking Republicans looking for an answer to a problem no right-thinking person has <_<

Black Francis · 04-09-2016, 11:04 AM

There's no need to use this shame tactics on me Paul just cause i don't see things like you do.

It just seems to me that's easier to comprehend using the biological method that applies to both genders of the population than to apply a method that depends solely on how an individual identifies his sexuality.

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Are you going to post sentries at every facility to check their birth certificate and/or their junk?

No, that would be silly. it's difficult for me to express my views on this subject cause on one hand i don't want to deprive transgenders the right to use whtvr bathroom they want and on the other idk if the system should adjust to their sensitivity.

Though im torn about this, ultimately i would side with the transgenders because despite my preferences i don't want to impede progress.

Also cause this article helped me put things in perspective

Here's what it'll look like if trans people aren't allowed to use the right bathroom.

DwnWthVwls · 04-09-2016, 01:02 PM

I don't understand the whole "violation of privacy". It's a bathroom with a stall to do your business, you're not whipping your privates out for everyone to see. I have no problem with unisex bathrooms, in my mind strangers are strangers, so having a man or a woman on the other side of the stall would be equally discomforting if I were inclined to feel such a way. I'm sure I'm the minority here, but I think biological sex based segregation is a larger issue than this trans-gender bathroom law nonsense. The way this country treats the naked body and sexuality is the root of many of the issues we have.

bob_32_116 · 04-09-2016, 01:24 PM

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but I think biological sex based segregation is a larger issue than this trans-gender bathroom law nonsense. The way this country treats the naked body and sexuality is the root of many of the issues we have.

This is probably true. But you must admit, for transgender people themselves this is not a trivial issue, it affects the way they live their lives.

DwnWthVwls · 04-09-2016, 01:27 PM

No argument here, that's why I called it nonsense.

**Janszoon** · 04-09-2016, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

I don't understand the whole "violation of privacy". It's a bathroom with a stall to do your business, you're not whipping your privates out for everyone to see. I have no problem with unisex bathrooms, in my mind strangers are strangers, so having a man or a woman on the other side of the stall would be equally discomforting if I were inclined to feel such a way. I'm sure I'm the minority here, but I think biological sex based segregation is a larger issue than this trans-gender bathroom law nonsense. The way this country treats the naked body and sexuality is the root of many of the issues we have.

You're not the only one. I mentioned this earlier in the thread as well.

OccultHawk · 04-09-2016, 03:41 PM

This should be something that society can easily work out with a little common sense and compassion but the Christian Right always has to go to war with anything that's a little different than what they're used to. But the good news is they're losing. Most Americans just want to live and let live and it's sending the bigots in this country into conniptions.

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