The AI Singularity and Transhumanism

The Batlord · 08-01-2017, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

Try this thought experiment:

Every second another "you" no longer exists but you don't know that because the new you is an almost exact replica of the previous containing all the same memories

I'm still freaked out over the idea that every time you fall asleep, the you that existed since you woke up is now dead.

**Frownland** · 08-01-2017, 10:55 PM

How is that unsettling?

The Batlord · 08-01-2017, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

Right that's the idea and it is very unsettling

It begs the question if a digital replica would be the same thing is what I'm saying

Obviously, but so long as no one ever pulls the plug on your consciousness so to speak, and it never has to be rebooted in another place, then you're probably on the right track. There simply has to be a way to give my brain the power of a super computer without changing the nature of who I am or accidentally erasing me.

The Batlord · 08-02-2017, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

But I think you may be erased naturally all the time (albiet slowly) and you are only the latest clone

Not much I can do about that, but I can be a paranoid conspiracy theorist about human+ until I'm an immortal.

Pet_Sounds · 08-02-2017, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I have no idea what consciousness is

But I think to say we are just chemicals in the brain leaves a lot to be desired as none of those chemicals remain very long

It seems to me we are more a blueprint shaped by our experiences and genetics

And so if you replicate the blueprint is it something seperate from or a continuation of a concioussness?

I have yet to find a satisfactory answer in either direction

Try this if you don't mind slogging through some math. It's a stimulating read.

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Originally Posted by elphenor

Try this thought experiment:

Every second another "you" no longer exists but you don't know that because the new you is an almost exact replica of the previous containing all the same memories

Why only once per second?

grindy · 08-02-2017, 02:08 PM

Anyone read Dennett's 'Consciousness Explained'?
I started reading once and really liked where he was going but had little time for reading back then and it's not an easy book you can read casually for ten minutes a day.
Gonna try against during my vacation.

DwnWthVwls · 08-02-2017, 04:40 PM

Ive mever read any of his books but yay for his revival of deepity.

Mindy · 10-20-2017, 05:40 PM

i read this

then watched the movie with johnny deep that they made from it.

would be nice to upload your conscious mind as some program on a tv screen in someones home. that was weird where the lady would talk to the johnny deep character at the table eating and hes just a tv screen

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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