School threats: your opinion?

Trollheart · 12-15-2015, 02:27 PM

Los Angeles schools, New York respond differently to threat - CNN.com

So we have two cities, New York and LA, on opposite sides of America, both getting apparently the very same email threatening attacks against their students. One (LA) takes the threat seriously and shuts down its schools. The other (NY) believes the email to be a hoax and keeps its schools open.

Which do you think acted correctly, or is there any way to decide that?
I personally have never yet heard of an attack by ISIS or their agents which was warned of in advance, though I admit I'm not that au fait with their actions, so I would think it is a hoax. But put in that situation, I guess you would have to put the kids and staff safety first. I'm not sure how I'd react.

What do you guys think?

DwnWthVwls · 12-15-2015, 02:46 PM

Coinflip. If schools shutdown every time they received a threat our education system would be even worse than it already is. I think the obvious knee jerk reaction is to say, "shut it down for safety" which makes sense, but you have to draw the line somewhere. It should be a case by case decision based on the intelligence(if any) we have about the threats while keeping in consideration the current state of society(threats directly after 9/11 vs threats during times of "peace").

Trollheart · 12-15-2015, 04:45 PM

Yeah, like I say, my main point is that I have never heard of ISIS emailing "We're gonna blow you up" or anything. They seem always to strike without warning so why change tack? They're also into more killing than just spreading panic/discontent/fear, so given a choice between uncertainty and bodycount, I feel they're always going to go for the latter.

Also, the NYPD seemed to think that the threats were very generic and had no keywords or special characteristics that would mark them out as being genuine. Interesting how the two cities reacted though?

**Frownland** · 12-15-2015, 05:42 PM

Apart from the unlikelihood of people announcing their crimes that TH had mentioned, the fact that this is going down while a lot of students are taking finals makes me side with NY a little more.

DwnWthVwls · 12-15-2015, 06:08 PM

I thought it's K-12. No finals for them right now.

**Frownland** · 12-15-2015, 06:10 PM

You didn't have finals in high school?

The Batlord · 12-15-2015, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

You didn't have finals in high school?

He's from New Jersey.

simplephysics · 12-15-2015, 06:58 PM

Meanwhile my college has had three armed robberies in the past 12 hours and they sure as hell didn't cancel any finals. The campus emergency alert call system has been blowing up my phone all day.

DwnWthVwls · 12-15-2015, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

You didn't have finals in high school?

Yeh I had finals. In like May/June when school was almost over...

Just checked the calendar in my home town and Semester 2 doesn't end until Jan 26, which is around the time midterms would be. Idk, how different schedules are in Cali but you're no where near midterms or finals around here.

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Originally Posted by mordwyr

Yes. People never socialized before the advent of public schools.

No, before public schools kids socialized at work. Education aside you get a lot of life experience going to school.. You're subjected to culture, people with different points of view, bullying, etc. Not sending your child to school for at least a couple of years is a huge disservice, especially if they plan on going to college. And yes I understand there are plenty of extracurricular activities they can do to get similar experiences but it's just not the same.

Chula Vista · 12-15-2015, 10:46 PM

Have to agree. School is not just knowledge education it's also social education. Eventually those kids become adults and have to deal with the real world. Closeting them during the school years might get them better grades but it's going to make the transition to the real world harder IMO.

Unless, of course, you don't get pimples and you hang out on a forum populated with elder degenerates.

Not to mention that school affords the chances of having innocent teenage exploratory sex much more likely.

*fondly remembering Kathy, Donna, and Michelle*

12-15-2015, 02:27 PM	#1 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,996	School threats: your opinion? Los Angeles schools, New York respond differently to threat - CNN.com So we have two cities, New York and LA, on opposite sides of America, both getting apparently the very same email threatening attacks against their students. One (LA) takes the threat seriously and shuts down its schools. The other (NY) believes the email to be a hoax and keeps its schools open. Which do you think acted correctly, or is there any way to decide that? I personally have never yet heard of an attack by ISIS or their agents which was warned of in advance, though I admit I'm not that au fait with their actions, so I would think it is a hoax. But put in that situation, I guess you would have to put the kids and staff safety first. I'm not sure how I'd react. What do you guys think? __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

12-15-2015, 04:45 PM	#3 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,996	Yeah, like I say, my main point is that I have never heard of ISIS emailing "We're gonna blow you up" or anything. They seem always to strike without warning so why change tack? They're also into more killing than just spreading panic/discontent/fear, so given a choice between uncertainty and bodycount, I feel they're always going to go for the latter. Also, the NYPD seemed to think that the threats were very generic and had no keywords or special characteristics that would mark them out as being genuine. Interesting how the two cities reacted though? __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

12-15-2015, 05:42 PM	#4 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	Apart from the unlikelihood of people announcing their crimes that TH had mentioned, the fact that this is going down while a lot of students are taking finals makes me side with NY a little more. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

12-15-2015, 06:10 PM	#6 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	You didn't have finals in high school? __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

12-15-2015, 10:46 PM	#10 (permalink)
Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	Have to agree. School is not just knowledge education it's also social education. Eventually those kids become adults and have to deal with the real world. Closeting them during the school years might get them better grades but it's going to make the transition to the real world harder IMO. Unless, of course, you don't get pimples and you hang out on a forum populated with elder degenerates. Not to mention that school affords the chances of having innocent teenage exploratory sex much more likely. fondly remembering Kathy, Donna, and Michelle __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”