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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody
Well immigration doesn't have to be non white, I understand that you've had a huge influx of Eastern Europeans into the UK as a result of being part of the EU.
I'm just trying to figure out why no one heads North, if its not climate than it must be jobs.
My reasoning for immigrants from India and the middle east is because if the SNP achieves independence, and then gets mopped up by the EU (The most likely end result) I can't think why anyone from Poland or Romania would want to move to Glasgow when they can go to Berlin, London or Paris. The Scots would have to bring in people from countries where Scotland can provide a significant improvement in people's standard of living.
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They do head north as well, the population of England is grouped in about four regions 1. London and the south east which is one of the richest regions in Europe 2. Birmingham and the Midlands 3. Manchester and Liverpool and 4. Cities of Yorkshire. The last two I put here are in the north.
You are making the mistake of thinking immigrants move to a location because of the climate or how nice a city is, the reality is they will move to a location for work opportunities, contacts there or possible benefits etc. If an immigrant has better opportunities offered in Glasgow than he does in Paris, it is almost certain that he will pick Glasgow everytime, now if he was a student or somebody moving out of choice then he would pick Paris, Glasgow has a reputation of being an ugly city whereas Edinburgh is regarded as one of the nicest cities in the whole of the UK, so not all is grim in Scotland .
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An independent Scotland is not going to attract EU migrants, honestly Belgrade would be more appealing than Glasgow.
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I've been to Belgrade and believe me ugly Glasgow is better.
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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody
The reason being is that the UK currently has a GDP per capita of 41,787, if Scottland breaks away their GDP and economic growth will be a mere 16,944.
If your an EU migrant from Eastern Europe your going to want to go to the place that offers you the best economic opportunity of a better life, which means Scotland isn't going to be at the top of their list, especially if you can go somewhere warmer like Italy.
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Italy might be much nicer than Scotland but it is what is known as a transit country for lots of immigrants, as they are often treated like immigrants in these countries, lack worker rights and are offered poor conditions, whereas in northern europe of where Scotland is their conditions will be a lot better,
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Originally Posted by The Batlord
I never know how to gauge how much of a problem muslim immigration in Europe actually is. You have the mindlessly multicultural uber-libs on one side, saying everything's great and the people saying otherwise are racists, and on the other you have the racists. The people in the middle seem to not want to sound like the latter, and so it's hard to trust their opinions either.
Stories of honor killings, Sharia courts, and burkas happening in Europe don't exactly make things sound hunky dory though.
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Its a daily obessesion here with the daily press to go on about the amount of immigrants that flood into the UK on a weekly basis or how our society is gradually being turned in a secondary muslim state etc. I can tell you both points are complete bollocks and this is the one time where the freedom of the press should have some kind of control placed over it as they keep on harping over these points rather than reporting real news.
The UK as far as Europe goes is a pretty hard country for an immigrant to get into for a number of reasons and the muslim issue is something I've hardly ever noticed, in fact it's much more of an issue in a country like France than it is in the UK.
I've travelled to a whole load of countries around the world and I can honestly say that the UK is one of the best to live in, weighing up all the pros and cons.
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