UK Politics

Akai · 05-26-2018, 08:22 AM

Tommy Robinson has been imprisioned for 13 months in a 24 hour window after being arrested outside Leeds court for quoting public information against Muslim grooming gangs.

https://www.change.org/p/theresa-may...tommy-robinson

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 05-26-2018, 08:26 AM

he quite literally committed a crime, whether anyone agreed it should be illegal or not.

Akai · 05-26-2018, 08:31 AM

What crime?

He was charged with disturbance of the peace.

He gave information in court that was already publicised by others.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 05-26-2018, 08:33 AM

hmm? from what i’m reading it was contempt of court, which he is guilty of, no?

Akai · 05-26-2018, 08:36 AM

No, he was given permission to say his peace, siting publicised imformation within a speech is allowed.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 05-26-2018, 08:44 AM

“Contempt of court is a criminal offence that can see people jailed for speeches or publications that create a "substantial risk that the course of justice in the proceedings in question will be seriously impeded or prejudiced".”

i.e spreading biased information with an attempt to cause an uproar

Akai · 05-26-2018, 08:50 AM

If the publications were so biased and so obviously used with then intent to cause commotion the why was he not charged for it?

And if they were, does that make it okay to impression a man for over a year within a 24 hour window for standing up against a gang of rapists?

~~Cuthbert~~ · 05-26-2018, 08:54 AM

Has he been put in prison for 13 months? Sentences work out low. Don't think he will have got a reduction for an early guilty plea but isn't going to serve 13 months and he'll be able to serve part on tag as well, so more likely it's 3-4 months.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 05-26-2018, 08:54 AM

you’re asking me why it’s okay to enforce a law that he was obviously aware of and went ahead to violated anyway?

idk man good question

Akai · 05-26-2018, 08:56 AM

How do you know he was in contempt of court if you haven't seen the publications he sited?

Again, if they were what you think they are, wouldn't he of been charged accordingly?

Edit: So, apparently 'Breach of the Peace' isn't even a criminal offence and can't be sentenced with either time or a fine.

If that's the sole thing he was charged with, how can he get 13 months.

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05-26-2018, 08:22 AM	#311 (permalink)
Akai Godless Ape Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Britannia Posts: 1,255	Tommy Robinson has been imprisioned for 13 months in a 24 hour window after being arrested outside Leeds court for quoting public information against Muslim grooming gangs. https://www.change.org/p/theresa-may...tommy-robinson __________________ ''To be honest, in my opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter from a different perspective and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I do believe that I forgot what I was going to say.'' S p o t i f y Last edited by Akai; 05-26-2018 at 09:18 AM.

05-26-2018, 08:31 AM	#313 (permalink)
Akai Godless Ape Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Britannia Posts: 1,255	What crime? He was charged with disturbance of the peace. He gave information in court that was already publicised by others. __________________ ''To be honest, in my opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter from a different perspective and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I do believe that I forgot what I was going to say.'' S p o t i f y

05-26-2018, 08:36 AM	#315 (permalink)
Akai Godless Ape Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Britannia Posts: 1,255	No, he was given permission to say his peace, siting publicised imformation within a speech is allowed. __________________ ''To be honest, in my opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter from a different perspective and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I do believe that I forgot what I was going to say.'' S p o t i f y

05-26-2018, 08:50 AM	#317 (permalink)
Akai Godless Ape Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Britannia Posts: 1,255	If the publications were so biased and so obviously used with then intent to cause commotion the why was he not charged for it? And if they were, does that make it okay to impression a man for over a year within a 24 hour window for standing up against a gang of rapists? __________________ ''To be honest, in my opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter from a different perspective and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I do believe that I forgot what I was going to say.'' S p o t i f y

05-26-2018, 08:54 AM	#318 (permalink)
~~Cuthbert~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Black Country Posts: 8,827	Has he been put in prison for 13 months? Sentences work out low. Don't think he will have got a reduction for an early guilty plea but isn't going to serve 13 months and he'll be able to serve part on tag as well, so more likely it's 3-4 months.

05-26-2018, 08:56 AM	#320 (permalink)
Akai Godless Ape Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Britannia Posts: 1,255	How do you know he was in contempt of court if you haven't seen the publications he sited? Again, if they were what you think they are, wouldn't he of been charged accordingly? Edit: So, apparently 'Breach of the Peace' isn't even a criminal offence and can't be sentenced with either time or a fine. If that's the sole thing he was charged with, how can he get 13 months. __________________ ''To be honest, in my opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter from a different perspective and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I do believe that I forgot what I was going to say.'' S p o t i f y Last edited by Akai; 05-26-2018 at 09:05 AM.