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grindy 08-05-2015 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1622616)
I've actually asked for this not to be discussed here DWV if you read back a little. It's off-topic and I have no idea what it has to do with the question I asked. Thanks.

It has something to do with the question.
People are debating, whether such conflicts are gender-based or a general human thing, which in turn leads us to thoughts about whether all that is caused by societal conditioning or some is some kind of hard-wired thing. It might not be about wars and such, but come on.

The Batlord 08-05-2015 11:33 PM

nb4 Trollheart's ocd rant

Trollheart 08-06-2015 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by grindy (Post 1622719)
It has something to do with the question.
People are debating, whether such conflicts are gender-based or a general human thing, which in turn leads us to thoughts about whether all that is caused by societal conditioning or some is some kind of hard-wired thing. It might not be about wars and such, but come on.

Yeah, I looked back at where it began and it was tore who brought it into the discussion. I actually have no problem with it being discussed; it just seems like it's at the moment taking over the thread and skewing the direction it's going in, so it seems like it's pulling things off topic. Anyway, as I already said, feminism has its own thread so why not discuss it there?

I really don't care, as long as the point, the original point I made, which has nothing to do with gender conflict (think the Romans gave two ****s about women and equality?), is not lost or talked over.

Carry on.

Chula Vista 08-06-2015 08:33 AM

Interesting Q&A article on war.

'What Every Person Should Know About War' - NYTimes.com

So in the last 3,400 years the world has been at peace less than 8% of the time.

RL Clown 08-30-2015 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1622803)
Interesting Q&A article on war.

'What Every Person Should Know About War' - NYTimes.com

So in the last 3,400 years the world has been at peace less than 8% of the time.

That is extremely interesting. One should definitely keep that in mind... To answer the original question: Is humanity hard-wired for war and conflict? ===> the answer is no... Look at it this way - humanity is hard-wired for competition BUT humanity is not hard-wired for war and conflict. Human beings are hard-wired for capitalism; this explains why no country or government has successfully applied communism. And even if communism were 100% successful, life would be extremely boring. In other words, you would be stuck with the same cellphone. The reason cellphones keep on improving is because human beings are greedy enough to want more profit. Human beings always want things to be better; this explains why technology is always improving. I actually don't see anything wrong with this because this actually creates more jobs for people. I'm not a big expert on economics but I think that this will lead to inflation. Inflation is not always a bad thing because the standards of living are getting better (inflation causes these standards to improve). I think that the main reason to why war exists is because human beings misunderstand each other (they think that another party is attacking them. Therefore they feel the need to react in self-defense). You want an example? I'll give you one... A musician thinks that another musician is dissing him because of a comment mentioned on television. The musician reacts by producing a diss song. Actually, the person who mentioned the comment wasn't really dissing the musician, but the musician misunderstood the message. The musician will eventually learn that he has misunderstood the message, but by then, it's too late. By then, 4 diss songs would have already been produced.

Mr. Charlie 08-30-2015 06:29 PM

Stuck with the same cellphone? :laughing: You lunatic. But I love you all the same.

Trollheart 08-31-2015 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Charlie (Post 1631405)
Stuck with the same cellphone? :laughing: You lunatic. But I love you all the same.

"Boy let me tell you now: we're in Hell!" :D

RL Clown 08-31-2015 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Charlie (Post 1631405)
Stuck with the same cellphone? :laughing: You lunatic. But I love you all the same.

It's true. In communist countries, you can't do much... You love me all the same? [James Bond accent]I appreciate the offer, but I think that I already have a girlfriend.[/James Bond accent] ;)

JonMJ33 08-31-2015 10:56 PM

While man might have a lot of violence within their fundamental being, I truly believe that a lot of our wars are nothing more than banker's wars. Check out the documentary on Youtube called "All Wars Are Banker's Wars."

Trollheart 09-01-2015 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by JonMJ33 (Post 1631901)
"All Wars Are Banker's Wars."

Change the "b" to a "w" and you have hit the nail.... :laughing:


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