The Democratic Primaries

Paul Smeenus · 03-09-2016, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Xurtio

There are super delegates turning, too, some of them looking to the people for their opinions, so it wouldn't hurt to contact super delegates in your area.

Do you have any numbers or examples? I want to agree with you but I need to see some facts, solid measurable stats that bear this out.

I see the superdelegate system like a microcosm of the entire political system, rigged and corrupt. Even if Bernie gets through it there's a hideous tangled web of supreme fuckery that's gonna be monumental to clean up.

Xurtio · 03-09-2016, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Smeenus

Do you have any numbers or examples? I want to agree with you but I need to see some facts, solid measurable stats that bear this out.

I see the superdelegate system like a microcosm of the entire political system, rigged and corrupt. Even if Bernie gets through it there's a hideous tangled web of supreme fuckery that's gonna be monumental to clean up.

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Alan Grayson:

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Perhaps inspired by the Bernie Sanders message of “Not me. Us.”, for the past several days, I have appealed to Democrats across the nation to tell me for whom I should vote, as a Super-delegate at the Democratic National Convention," he wrote in a post.

"The response has been absolutely overwhelming. Almost 400,000 Democrats voted at GraysonPrimary.com."

The results showed Sanders with 86 percent and rival Hillary Clinton with just 14 percent.

Rep. Alan Grayson endorses Sanders | TheHill

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Three in Vermont, based on public opinion:

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"The people of Vermont have spoken," said Condos, who earned his superdelegate status as the vice chairman of the Democratic Association of Secretaries of State.

3 VT superdelegates pledge for Bernie Sanders

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also, note that Clinton had 3x the superdelegates Obama had in January, too. By March, she had like 1.5x or something, but supedelegates DO change their vote to reflect the public's opinion:

Superdelegates Might Not Save Hillary Clinton | FiveThirtyEight

http://www.gazettenet.com/News/Local...-district.aspx

The exception to this, of course, is that Bernie is an outsider. So that presents a confounding factor, I will concede. But the point is that the supedelegates do not make the Sanders campaign dead in the water and if Sanders is something you want, you CAN still help.

Paul Smeenus · 03-09-2016, 12:20 PM

Thank you, this is a step in the right direction, although IMO getting rid of the superdelegate system altogether would be my personal objective here. BTW, I'm hesitant to seem to be nitpicking a well-constructed post here, but by way of clarification...

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Originally Posted by Xurtio

By Mach

was that meant to be "March"?