Evidently the lizard king.

So we agree newts are better than dead prophets. Good.

And lame Doors references as well.

I guess I consider myself pragmatic in that I believe life elsewhere would be similar to life on earth, but some are a little more creative. Stephen Hawking for example has suggested life elsewhere could be so alien to us, we'd never know what to look for. His example was the possibility of life forms living within stars.

That seems very far fetched to me, but who knows?

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Regarding abductees, I heard a radio program some years ago in which some professor was talking about mental illnesses and delusions through the ages. Very roughly speaking, he made a point and convincing argument that back in the real good days, delusions used to be religious with people seeing angels or demons and the like until some time after the age of enlightenment where some would think they were abducted and experimented on by scientsts, much like some people believe they've been abducted by UFO's today. The general idea was that these people are just a little nuts and their delusions basically reflect the times.

It's not far fetched if you think about it. Life wasn't put on Earth, it didn't come into this world, it came out of this world. We're suited to our environment because we were created from the environment. Who's to say lifeforms from and in different environments can't exist without water, oxygen, and other things we deem necessary? Man is not the measure of all things. Man is the measure of man.

Jim Morrison is a newt?

Like Jesus, Jim's dead.

While I agree that the first life forms here came about as a cause of organic chemistry, there have been meteorites that have had bacteria on them. It's still a possibility that the earliest life forms could have come from space, making us the alien visitors. Also, we ready have a lot of anaerobic organisms who don't need water here on earth too so that's definitely possible too.

As far as tore's point about us not being able to recognize alien life, I'm kind of with Hawking on this one. There's no real way to validate either side, but I think the adaptability of life on earth suggests that life forms could adapt to be something like what he describes. Really hard to know for sure, but some of the life on earth is kind of far fetched sounding too.

What's the difference between Jesus and Jim Morrison?

Nothing, really. I'd probably just nail one and fuck the other.

Jim Morrisson doesn't exist? News to me.