RIP Marines in Chattanooga
 

so insane what happened in TN. can believe people these days. too many shootings within a month. first some young twit takes down church members in SC. now another young twit takes down our heroes in marine camouflage. crazy world we live in.

Just to bump the thread, this has been posted on my FB page and some back east friends and family members are jumping on the train. Pretty f0cking embarrassing to be honest.

https://scontent.fsan1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...06&oe=564D4980

*slow clap*

I'm seriously embarrassed and trying hard to hold back from posting. Damn.

It's ignorant on an artistic level.

You can't teach tolerance. It has to be learned. Some people just miss the boat.

it seems more or less impossible to stop **** like this from happening

whether it be some autistic loser shooting up a movie theater.. or a racist kid shooting up a black church... or a islamic extremist shooting up some marines

basically it's easy to get a gun and go on a random rampage

and i don't see gun control as a way to stop this either, unless you can literally make it nearly impossible to get a gun in america. which sounds pretty difficult to me.

call me a cynic but i don't see any obvious solution other than move on and take some comfort in the fact that you are statistically much more likely to be gunned down by someone you know or some random gangster than you are to be a victim in a high profile "terror" attack

It's not cynical it's realistic.

You read the OP and thought this was all about gun violence?

Dude.

i thought it was about crazy people going on killing sprees

My bad. You were replying to the actual OP and not my post. Sorry.

no wonder this guys so pissed. his name is Jake Jacobs

always sad to see a marine or any citizen die like this which is why itd be smartest for obama to ban guns, something he will never do because of his islamic ties. sad all around for the usa

:laughing: your joking?

if this man didnt have a gun those marines would not have died and that is a fact

No not really.

nah dude guns aren't the problem

obama should just convert gitmo to a laogai-like* forced labor camp, and send anyone with anti-american or pro-radical-islam sentiments there in order to reform them by labor.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laogai

have them mass produce something pro-american, such as the american flag or bald eagle shirts, until they come out a few years later as enthusiastically patriotic american citizens. and in the meantime use their labor in order to help us finally compete with the chinese in terms of providing companies with the invaluable commodity of dirt-cheap labor

Gotta admit, that was funny man.

I don't think you should judge him to harshly. Sometimes it's not what a person says but why they say it. I think he would not flipped out and said those things if those marines were not murdered. And who knows, in this day and age he could be reprimanded for venting like that on social media. So no need to get upset over that.

One thing I hate about these incidents is the victims are forgotten, because in the debates taht follow everything else becomes the focus of attention. Maybe that is how conversations branch off into off topic issues. But still I think that stuff should be ignored and the main concern should be for the Marines and Navy sailor.

If there is anything one can take away from this story it should be how U.S. Navy Petty Officer Randall Smith warned people to get away before he was shot. That the last thing he did (before he died of gun shot wounds) was show concern for others.

I don't understand why it matters that they were Marines.

So, did the NRA come out and say that none of this would have happened if the victims were armed themselves?
Oh wait...

you don't think it matters who the target of an attack is?

were they armed? i know a lot of the time soldiers are actually unarmed

I just assumed they were.
You might be right though.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...r-chattanooga/

in this case, i would say the nra rhetoric has some merit to it. it seems military people are desirable targets for terrorists. if there is a specific policy restricting them from being armed at certain military facilities, then they should either beef up security at those facilities or let the soldiers arm themselves.

but when they said the same thing about the black church, i thought that was kind of ridiculous. that seemed like more of a freak incident, and a church isn't really the most appropriate place for people to be carrying guns

NRA 1
Grindy 0

I don't think it makes sense for people to be more upset about it because they were Marines.

well.. i think the fact that it was people in the military makes it more inflammatory because it would seem to have a political/terrorist agenda

think in terms of the shooting of the black church.. do you think that story would have the same narrative if he just shot up a random taco bell full of people of different races instead?

oh there you go again acting like a bitch.... the taco benders know how to sidestep such occurrences, they only grew up in the projects, *******....

This post makes no sense. The reason Obama won't/can't ban guns is because it is totally impossible for any president to do so, due to the gun culture already prevalent in the USA since after World War II. You really think anyone is going to be able to put that genie back in the bottle?

I completely miss your point about why having Islamic ties (which I don't think he has; I'm pretty sure an American president would want to support American industry and that he buys American ties) has anything to do with this??? Also, do you mean "Islamic" or "Islamist", as they are two widely different things?
I would hazard it's a case of "they were defending us and now someone killed them". Maybe. It's obviously awful when anyone is killed but I think it hurts a little more when servicemen are killed, not in combat, but where they should be able to assume they would be safe.

What are you talking about?

Janszy he wont answer you.

See confederate flag debate.

Girth's just a lame-ass troll.
Read his other posts. Just ignore him.

It's not the gun culture that keeps Obama from banning guns, but that pesky ass constitution thing.

letting a bunch of white slaveowners from 300 years ago boss you around is sort of a bitch move @ obama

OK, noted. I still reckon Obama wears American ties though....

**** with Taco Bell, get merked.

This is a good read. At the end of the day the 2nd Amendment can be legally read in two totally different ways.

http://www.amazon.com/Second-Amendme...=2nd+amendment

I'm a gun owner and my take after reading the book is that the 2nd is actually against guns for the general public.

I think some people also interpret it as an if-statement - like, if a well-regulated militia is essential, then people have the right to keep and bear arms. Honestly it doesn't matter to me what the framers meant - if I were a judge I'm sure I'd use some variation of Waldman's argument to justify banning guns, but that has nothing to do with the argument itself, it would just be a way to get what I want. Courts are a way to make policy, and that so few people recognize that is one of the things that really hurts our discourse.

obama and other oresidents dont have the guts to end murders by banning all guns. marines would be alive if he had done so. blood is on his hands