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The Batlord 07-17-2015 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Ninetales (Post 1615852)
lol no canadas flag is way better

I honestly don't see any appeal in the confed one. its lame as hell. like a logo from an online halo team or something

I totally wanna see that Halo team. I bet they get mad as hell when they lose.

Key 07-17-2015 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1615915)
now i'm getting criticized by ki of all people?

this must be what bottom feels like

:wavey:

John Wilkes Booth 07-17-2015 10:22 AM

what ever happened to your lady friend?

Key 07-17-2015 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1616022)
what ever happened to your lady friend?

I've answered this before. She's in a garbage bag in my closet.

John Wilkes Booth 07-17-2015 10:35 AM

stop being so edgy, pal

EPOCH6 07-17-2015 10:57 AM

It's interesting how many people out here in southern British Columbia fly the confederate flag, long before this incident too, and no less after the incident, I saw it quite frequently growing up. There's a guy in town with the entire hood of his old Toyota 4x4 painted as the confederate flag. There are stores downtown with confederate flags draped across their entire front windows.

Sort of demonstrates the wider perception of the flag, especially the perception of people far far away from its land of origin. I'd bargain that an extremely small amount of people out here, if any, actually grew up in America's deep south. Nobody out here flies the flag to identify with that. They fly the flag because outside of the politically charged states of the flag's origin it merely represents loose ideas of liberty, freedom, barbecues, river bonfires, tailgate parties, country music / southern rock, and lift kits for your truck. I'd be acting a bit naive if I completely ignored the possibility of some underlying racism, small town BC certainly isn't a cultural melting pot, but it's not a pressing issue out here like it is in the deep south.

Anyway, regarding the conflict around the flag in the states right now, I'd take the same position I'd take on any symbol, banning images doesn't solve anything, if anything it fuels conflict. Fly whatever flag you want, but that being said, if you're a public figure or a public organisation, have some common sense, be weary of how the public sees the symbol at the top of your flag pole and decide whether or not waving it around is a good idea after all.

John Wilkes Booth 07-17-2015 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by EPOCH6 (Post 1616031)
Sort of demonstrates the wider perception of the flag, especially the perception of people far far away from its land of origin. I'd bargain that an extremely small amount of people out here, if any, actually grew up in America's deep south. Nobody out here flies the flag to identify with that. They fly the flag because outside of the politically charged states of the flag's origin it merely represents loose ideas of liberty, freedom, barbecues, river bonfires, tailgate parties, country music / southern rock, and lift kits for your truck. I'd be acting a bit naive if I completely ignored the possibility of some underlying racism, small town BC certainly isn't a cultural melting pot, but it's not a pressing issue out here like it is in the deep south.

actually, that's basically how most white southerners seem to conceptualize "southern culture." so it sounds like people in BC see the flag similarly to how white people in the south see it. it's really not considered that politically charged by southerners... it's actually usually people from other parts of the country who take offense to it or regard it a certain way.

i guess the main difference is that the south also has a lot of black people who see the flag in a negative light because they associate it with kkk rallies and **** like that.

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Anyway, regarding the conflict around the flag in the states right now, I'd take the same position I'd take on any symbol, banning images doesn't solve anything, if anything it fuels conflict. Fly whatever flag you want, but that being said, if you're a public figure or a public organisation, have some common sense, be weary of how the public sees the symbol at the top of your flag pole and decide whether or not waving it around is a good idea after all.
i agree.. it's pretty absurd to me that the flag would fly over a state courthouse or some **** like that. unless of course you want to make that the american flag, as i said in my first post when i was trying really hard to be edgy.

John Wilkes Booth 07-17-2015 12:50 PM

i'd also like to add..



since it's a music forum and all

Xurtio 07-17-2015 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1616025)
stop being so edgy, pal

Would you say that's your shtick?

John Wilkes Booth 07-17-2015 04:11 PM

you asking me for the secret ingredients to jwb posts or what, pal?

people keep saying to me i'm trying to be edgy

tbh im not really sure what that word means

i tried google and this is what i get

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edg·y
ˈejē/Submit
adjective
1.
tense, nervous, or irritable.
"he became edgy and defensive"
synonyms: tense, nervous, on edge, anxious, apprehensive, uneasy, unsettled; More
2.
informal
at the forefront of a trend; experimental or avant-garde.
so you tell me

am i trying to start a trend by making this kind of thread? not really. basically what happens is... i think of something... then i consider posting it... then i say to myself
you know you're going to have to argue with people as to whether or not this should be a thread/whether its edgy/etc for the first couple of posts... it's like a ritual at this point i have to clear the fields to plant some seeds. so then i do and then eventually people start posting in the thread for real, sometimes to discuss the topic or a digression that branched off it, sometimes just to rate it, cause i dunno gives them a temporary position of power? who knows

i always interpreted "trying to be edgy" as i'm trying to offend.. and for this thread i'd have to ask how people see this as an attempt to offend.

i mean i'll be honest and say in other threads i have used inflammatory buzzwords just for the sheer sake of it... but i usually make it so over the top that it seems like people should be able to recognize that for what it is.

but in this thread i thought i gave a pretty fair and non-inflammatory intro, and then so it wasn't all serious put some lighthearted flag humor at the end. so if you really consider that edgy then i dunno.. we just don't belong on the same planet/forum


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