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Chula Vista 07-18-2015 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Xurtio (Post 1616354)
The main thing is that you do things considered socially unacceptable because you want to convey an image that you don't give a **** what anyone thinks.

He wears it quite well though, don't you think?

DwnWthVwls 07-18-2015 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by E5I5O (Post 1616301)
btw, DwnWthVwls, when you said, "I was actually hoping for some discussion about the OP which is why my first post compared it to flying a swastika?", what exactly did you mean? Because I don't know what you mean by OP.

OP means the original post(er).

Janszoon 07-18-2015 03:52 PM

OP really means Ocean Pacific.
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John Wilkes Booth 07-18-2015 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Xurtio (Post 1616354)
Holy **** you put a lot of effort into that response for an offhand comment.

Those definitions dont do common usage (ime) justice
I don't think edgy is synonyms with offensive. It probably has a lot of overlap, but the main thing is that you do things considered socially unacceptable because you want to convey an image that you don't give a **** what anyone thinks. (Not you personally, you the plural).

it sounded like a question to me... i tried my best to answer it clearly... it's not like it's the first time its come up and frankly i'd rather be talking about the issue the thread was about too but you (the collective you, not you personally) seem that you would rather discuss my edginess, hence i tried to address it

as for your definition... i would say that seems to sum up how some people see me, based on their comments.. i try to combat that image to some extent by compromising or clarifying here and there

because clearly i care what people think. i never claimed not to.

example: when i said ***got and people freaked out... i compromised by agreeing not to use that word anymore (except in reference to the word itself). even though i honestly don't see much wrong with using it in the way i used it. and most of the people i know irl see it more the way i see it than the way you guys see it. but i compromised to appease people anyway. if what i wanted to do was offend you guys then i would just keep saying that word and try to act as homophobic as possible.

instead i say things that i would think are so clearly over the top and silly that you should know i am not being serious about it... like jews/illuminati/change the country's flag to the confed battle flag/whatever... cause that's my humor.

you might say "we dont like your humor"

alright you don't like my humor

that doesn't mean i'm trying to offend you. like i said i thought this thread was pretty tame

John Wilkes Booth 07-18-2015 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody (Post 1616297)
Well that's good, your previous statement made me think the otherwise.

Seems to still be an ongoing debate amongst Republicans.

which previous comment specifically?

for the most part i was just trying to explain how southerners see the flag or think about it, not saying i think it should fly over state buildings.

cause honestly this stuff is all i seem to hear about anymore irl. people in the south are really worked up about the media campaign against the confed flag... they even had "protest" at the local mall parking lot here... and i've never seen these people protest anything before. the protest consisted mostly of fat rednecks driving around in a caravan sort of group with rebel flags and american flags mounted on either side of their trucks

i even had a person at work today tell me he thinks this entire incident was a covert op by the american govt just to attack southern heritage etc

so i was trying to convey the mindset of a lot of these people to you people who aren't from the south, cause i know if i didn't live here i wouldn't know what the hell these people think... they have really distorted views imo

Xurtio 07-18-2015 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1616544)
it sounded like a question to me... i tried my best to answer it clearly... it's not like it's the first time its come up and frankly i'd rather be talking about the issue the thread was about too but you (the collective you, not you personally) seem that you would rather discuss my edginess, hence i tried to address it

as for your definition... i would say that seems to sum up how some people see me, based on their comments.. i try to combat that image to some extent by compromising or clarifying here and there

because clearly i care what people think. i never claimed not to.

example: when i said ***got and people freaked out... i compromised by agreeing not to use that word anymore (except in reference to the word itself). even though i honestly don't see much wrong with using it in the way i used it. and most of the people i know irl see it more the way i see it than the way you guys see it. but i compromised to appease people anyway. if what i wanted to do was offend you guys then i would just keep saying that word and try to act as homophobic as possible.

instead i say things that i would think are so clearly over the top and silly that you should know i am not being serious about it... like jews/illuminati/change the country's flag to the confed battle flag/whatever... cause that's my humor.

you might say "we dont like your humor"

alright you don't like my humor

that doesn't mean i'm trying to offend you. like i said i thought this thread was pretty tame

I didn't actually foresee investing any time in it at all. And I wasn't criticizing your humor, I was just making an offhand comment that loosely matched a character trait - I didn't think it was so damning or that it made you a bad person. You could have safely ignored it or shot back an equally offhand comment to reduce derailment load, for future reference.

John Wilkes Booth 07-18-2015 07:40 PM

like i said if you were the first one to come in and say that, then your reasoning would be sound

but it seems like a common occurrence, so i decided to address it

that simple, my friend

Xurtio 07-18-2015 08:11 PM

That's fair. Kiss n make up?

John Wilkes Booth 07-18-2015 09:02 PM

sure thing

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to get back on topic... had a conversation with a coworker at lunch and we were sort of arguing over the civil war.. in a light hearted way. but i was trying to convince him that slavery was the basis of the south wanting to secede... he wasn't buying it for a second though and neither was anyone else... and he told me that freed black slaves had also volunteered to fight for the confederacy. it's literally impossible for me to even question this kind of thing in a polite way. the only thing i can think to say to that is that it sounds ****in stupid lol. why they hell would a freed slave come volunteer to fight for the confederacy?

Chula Vista 07-18-2015 09:06 PM

Dude..... use the originals.

http://assets.rollingstone.com/asset...1395690154.jpg


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