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Old 07-10-2015, 09:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I get that, but all the people like you who don't vote for people because "I love them but they don't have a chance" are the reason shit never changes.
Not true. At all. The reason is that the bosses of the politicians are the politicians. I'm not wasting my vote on an ideal.

The system was set up all wrong hundreds of years ago but it ain't changing, since it would take the House and Senate voting against their own better interests to do it. That just plain isn't going to happen.
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Not true. At all.
Yes it is, because if you stopped doing it then other people would get elected.
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Not true. At all. The reason is that the bosses of the politicians are the politicians. I'm not wasting my vote on an ideal.

The system was set up all wrong hundreds of years ago but it ain't changing, since it would take the House and Senate voting against their own better interests to do it. That just plain isn't going to happen.
Obviously one president isn't going to change the country but when America consistently gets someone good for the majority into the Whitehouse than overtime things will change. Even if Bernie got 1-2 things passed to weaken the upper class stronghold that's a start I'd be happy with. I agree your generation and mine won't see it but this is about making the future a better place.

Any vote that doesn't attempt to change a broken system is a wasted vote.
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Any vote that doesn't attempt to change a broken system is a wasted vote.
Assuming this was your point.

I think the bigger problem is with Congress. 100 senators and 435 representatives are voted on state by state. But ultimately they wield the power over the entire country. Remember this:

The New New Deal: Why the GOP Became the Party of No | TIME.com

The people running in state elections can cater to their homegrown base in order to get in. And then they wreak havoc once they get to Washington.

Ted Cruz anyone????
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