bernie sanders 4 prez

Xurtio · 06-08-2016, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

This is what bugs me about a lot of voters. One of the things. People concentrate almost entirely on a candidate's policies and beliefs are, as if that's the only thing they need to know. Trump may not be a bad businessman like some people say, but he is most certainly a reckless one. He just happens to be good at bouncing back from his many failures, but if he does the same kind of **** that made him file for bankruptcy, or put his name on projects that he had no involvement with whatsoever, then I don't have much faith that he's going to be in any way a responsible leader.

He only bounced back because he was born with enough money to fail a couple times before getting it right.

On the issue of policies, Trump is surprisingly moderate. He may have gone on about tagging Muslims and sending them off, but if you go look on his page at his actual policy, the policy relates only to enforcing laws already in place. When questioned about the trans-bathroom situation (which is actually kind of a distraction from the other piece of policy that came with that regarding employment) he took a liberal position. In the past, he has held liberal positions on abortion. A lot of his rhetoric is aimed at his current base.

But then there's the ****ing wall. That's still up on his policy page, and making Mexico pay for it. Lol.

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And Trump is useful as a candidate for showing to anyone with common sense just how ridiculous our political system has become, but the very reason he is useful as a candidate is why he shouldn't be allowed near the presidency. Because he's a ****ing joke who has given America no indication that he will be anything but a disaster.

Ah, there lies the rub. You think it's a joke. But it's not, it's the sad state we're in. And you'll begin to appreciate that under President Trump.

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At least we know Clinton probably won't run the country into the ground. In today's political climate I'm willing to settle for that. I'd rather not flip a coin on my country's future for the sake of mindless idealism

I have to live in the system. So do you. Have some sense.

To me, it sounds like you're catastrophizing a Trump Presidency. I don't believe he will "run the country into the ground". And further, I don't see "the system" as life support.

It's actually kind of unfortunate how much attention and energy is given to the presidency... if you want to maintain life support, start voting congress members that care about the middle class in.

Xurtio · 06-08-2016, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

You claim so many things about how our politicians are turning us into slaves, and yet you seem to think that this is all being done to non-stupid people? I think you're engaging in some classic INGSOC doublethink.

I agree with Roxy, but I don't think it's stupidity that turns us into "slaves" (slaves is a bit hyperbolic) it's simply lack of power. It doesn't matter how smart you are when your slavery is enforced by armed men.

Chula Vista · 06-08-2016, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah

You're from Boston liar.

Going on 20 years in California. That counts.

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I love the way you kiss her ass. I also love the fact you willingly want and accecpt your enslavement.

Saying she's the lesser of two evils is kissing her ass? Explain to me how I'm a slave again? You might want to look up the word first.

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Originally Posted by Xurtio

Trump's incompetence and belligerence will have a greater chance of breaking the system.

You mean destroying our enconomy and our ties with our allies, right?

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Originally Posted by mordwyr

That's the reality of today's America. Gone is the sense of fierce independence and self-determination. The populace now lives on "the opiate of the masses".

Oh lord, how ironic. You gonna quote some scripture again now to back your point?

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And Trump is useful as a candidate for showing to anyone with common sense just how ridiculous our political system has become, but the very reason he is useful as a candidate is why he shouldn't be allowed near the presidency.

Amen.

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He only bounced back because he was born with enough money to fail a couple times before getting it right.

No, it's because he's manipulated our bankruptcy laws at the expense and ruin of thousands of others.

Donald Trump: “We’ll have the company. We’ll throw it into a chapter. We’ll negotiate with the banks. We’ll make a fantastic deal,” Trump told ABC in 2011. “You know, it’s like on ‘The Apprentice.’ It’s not personal. It’s just business.”

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if you want to maintain life support, start voting congress members that care about the middle class in.

Who says I don't?

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I agree with Roxy. It doesn't matter how smart you are when your slavery is enforced by armed men.

Yup, sounds just like Roxy. Again, tell me how I'm a slave.

RoxyRollah · 06-08-2016, 08:33 PM

Nigga you from Boston. I know what slavery is and we live it everyday the difference is I am not okay with surfdom you are...Too each their own .Support that psychotic witch all you want too...You're gonna look great dressed like a Star Trek villain

The Batlord · 06-08-2016, 08:35 PM

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Nigga you from Boston. I know what slavery is and we live it everyday the difference is I am not okay with surfdom.

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RoxyRollah · 06-08-2016, 08:37 PM

Go away.^

Chula Vista · 06-08-2016, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah

I know what slavery is and we live it everyday

Maybe you choose to but not me. And again, please explain slavery in the context you keep using it in. How are you a slave? And the fact you have to pay taxes is not an acceptable option.

Having to pay taxes and follow laws does not make you a slave. It makes you a contributing member of US society.

RoxyRollah · 06-08-2016, 08:47 PM

Really you are that asleep?

RoxyRollah · 06-08-2016, 08:49 PM

Wait your voting for a thief and liar big government queenpin so Im not surprised.

You really don't want me to wake you either.You just want to mock me so you can cast you're vote that means nothing and they come out tell you to your face that all these people who actually voted Sanders lost with a straight face AND YOU'RE GOING ALONG WITH IT. Your mind is enslaved not your body.

Chula Vista · 06-08-2016, 08:53 PM

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Wait your voting for a thief and liar big government queenpin so Im not surprised.

Your naivety and lack of any reasoning on these issues is staggering.

Again, how are you a slave??? Stop dodging the question. If you are going to put it out there, back it up.