bernie sanders 4 prez

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 10-30-2015, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth

been trying to watch the dem debate... made it about halfway through so far

tbh bernie sanders was really **** in the debate. really didn't sound like he had it all together. i really hate to say it but watching this debate i actually had the impression that we'd be better off with clinton... with her cold robotic vulcan tendencies

of course that's irrelevant since she'll lose to trump anyhow

when i posted this i had shut the debate off at around the point where they stopped debating foreign policy. sanders sounded like a tool there tbh. "i think mr putin will be very sawrry for what he's done", in that whiney jewish grandpa voice. just sounded like a thick ideologue.

but later in the debate he shines a lot more. i love some of the painful expressions he made when hillary would dodge a point. so i take back saying that we'd be better off with her.. she's a transparent establishment shill and bernie is just too much of a jewish gentleman to really call her out for what she is.

the other guys one the stage were a waste of space, except for webb... who actually came across as the smartest and best candidate to me... too bad he has literally nobody interested in him. if only he had a vagina or a bald jewish head.

William_the_Bloody · 12-13-2015, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by prisoner437x3y0

I know next to nothing about political elections but have found the posts here as generally informative.

William(or anyone else really) what are bernie sanders chances looking like? I had immediatly dismissed him as having the same chance as ralph nader, but that comparison isn't fair at all anymore it would seem.

I answered your question here, as it's the Bernie page.

His chances of winning the nomination? Not good, here's why.

1. The Democratic establishment wants Hillary to win, they even shortened the number of tv debates in her favour.

O'Malley: DNC stacking deck to help Clinton - CNN Video

The Democratic establishment doesn't want Bernie to win because they think he's too far to the left and therefore unelectable to swing voters.

Although I don't have time to find a direct link between the DNC & financial doners here's the difference in Hillary & Bernie's fundraising now and historically. (notice the amount of banks on Hillary's top list)

One Chart Shows the Biggest Difference Between Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton - Mic

2. Hillary has a lockdown on Hispanic American and Black voters. Despite continued efforts on Sanders part he can't seem to break through.

'It's very white': Las Vegas audience exposes Bernie Sanders' Latino problem | US news | The Guardian

For Hispanic voters this is in part because of his stance on immigration,

Why Immigration Is The Hole In Bernie Sanders' Progressive Agenda | ThinkProgress

Among Black voters it's in part because their is a strong bond between many black voters and the Clintons that will be hard to unhinge.

Sanders Struggles to Dent Clinton

or to be more blunt...

Polls: Bernie Sanders' black voter problem - Business Insider

3. He does not poll well amongst centrist democratic voters.

Although somewhat old, this chart shows Bernie Sanders problem with moderate democratic voters.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-to-democrats/

Since his entrance into the race he has been polling steadily upwards, but has flatlined at 30% for the last month, which means he's probably hit the ceiling of his support.

2016 National Democratic Primary - Polls - HuffPost Pollster

Plus, Hillary also maintains a strong lead over Sanders in Iowa.

What does this all mean? Hillary will be the Presidential candidate for the Democratic Party!

The Batlord · 12-13-2015, 09:36 PM

Take that, Briks!

Trollheart · 12-14-2015, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Take that, Briks!

It doesn't matter what he does, he's ALWAYS gonna be Briks to you, isn't he?

The Batlord · 12-14-2015, 06:23 PM

Yes. Or at least until he sees sense and changes it to "Norway Jose". It's not my fault a Norwegian doesn't get the joke.

Trollheart · 12-15-2015, 05:55 PM

Asked in the Trump thread, no response so hoping someone here can direct me to tonight's debate? Can't see it on CNN though they say they're carrying it...

**Frownland** · 12-15-2015, 06:00 PM

You won't be able to watch it on their website until it happens.

Trollheart · 12-15-2015, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

You won't be able to watch it on their website until it happens.

Yeah but I watched the others, after the event, recorded off my telly from CNN. Now there's no sign of it in the planner. Hasn't it started already though? What time is it there now? Just after midnight here.

**Frownland** · 12-15-2015, 06:20 PM

In California, it's 4:20. The debate is set at 8:30 EST, so it should be on in an hour and ten. There might be some differences on when they show it in different countries or something? I have no idea, I don't have cable.

EDIT: It's actually set to start off at 9, my bad.

Trollheart · 12-15-2015, 06:34 PM

Thanks Frown. Definitely not showing here which is odd, as the last three all were shown on the telly. Guess I'll have to YouTube it tomorrow, or maybe get it from CNN's website. Can't wait to see how Trump defends his "kick every Muslim out of America" stance. Also what they'll say about Paris and the attacks in San Bernardino, to say nothing of the threats to the schools today.

12-15-2015, 05:55 PM	#266 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,992	Asked in the Trump thread, no response so hoping someone here can direct me to tonight's debate? Can't see it on CNN though they say they're carrying it... __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

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Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	You won't be able to watch it on their website until it happens. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

12-15-2015, 06:20 PM	#269 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	In California, it's 4:20. The debate is set at 8:30 EST, so it should be on in an hour and ten. There might be some differences on when they show it in different countries or something? I have no idea, I don't have cable. EDIT: It's actually set to start off at 9, my bad. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

12-15-2015, 06:34 PM	#270 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,992	Thanks Frown. Definitely not showing here which is odd, as the last three all were shown on the telly. Guess I'll have to YouTube it tomorrow, or maybe get it from CNN's website. Can't wait to see how Trump defends his "kick every Muslim out of America" stance. Also what they'll say about Paris and the attacks in San Bernardino, to say nothing of the threats to the schools today. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018