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Old 09-27-2016, 06:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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This would certainly be true if he didn't continue to make himself look like a liar and a failure.
No, that's how I roll regardless of who I'm looking at.

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Even during his speech he admitted that not paying his taxes makes him smart while simultaneously not admitting that he doesn't pay taxes. You know why? Because he doesn't want people to believe that he's no longer wealthy.
Tax evasion=broke? Absolutely not.

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He brings up examples of business that make absolutely no sense, and yet that still makes him a success.
Good for him? Idunno, I'm looking at his business skills, not businesses that he's cited.

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I'm going to define him by what I see from him in a political sense
With the coverage from this election, this is a very bad idea.

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Bringing Bill Gates into it makes 0 sense.
It does for me because I'm not holding Donald Trump to any special standard just because I don't like him. But I guess it helps that you think it makes zero sense because I'm parroting your logic.
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Old 09-27-2016, 06:09 PM   #2 (permalink)
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No, that's how I roll regardless of who I'm looking at.
Than that's your own fault.


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Tax evasion=broke? Absolutely not.
What other reason does he have to avoid releasing his tax information? Please, inform me.

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Good for him? Idunno, I'm looking at his business skills, not businesses that he's cited.
This makes no sense. Read it again and try to comprehend what you just said.


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With the coverage from this election, this is a very bad idea.
So now live broadcasts aren't enough for you? What do you want me to do, go to a debate myself and write everything down and mail it to you? C'mon.


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It does for me because I'm not holding Donald Trump to any special standard just because I don't like him.
Than that tells me more about the kind of person you are. If you for a second think Donald Trump is any sort of a decent human being, there'll be a problem.
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Old 09-27-2016, 06:13 PM   #3 (permalink)
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What other reason does he have to avoid releasing his tax information? Please, inform me.
Tax evasion, as I had mentioned before. Campaign contributions in his "oh, I totally don't need your money bro" campaign would also be a scandalous thing he'd like to hide.

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Than that tells me more about the kind of person you are. If you for a second think Donald Trump is any sort of a decent human being, there'll be a problem.
I call it rational to use the same criteria for judging what makes a good businessman from one person to the other. Also, businessman is not a synonym for good person.
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Old 09-27-2016, 06:17 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Tax evasion, as I had mentioned before. Campaign contributions in his "oh, I totally don't need your money bro" campaign would also be a scandalous thing he'd like to hide.
Him being in the upper class though, he can get away with it. Sounds fair to me.


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I never said that.
"With the coverage from this election, this is a very bad idea."

Are we not talking about the debate?

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I call it rational to use the same criteria for judging what makes a good businessman from one person to the other. Also, businessman is not a synonym for good person.
So, you're telling me a business man with no bankruptcies and a successful business plan is in the same realm as Donald Trump?
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So, you're telling me a business man with no bankruptcies and a successful business plan is in the same realm as Donald Trump?
Please inform us of the businessmen you are comparing Trump to and their business records.
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Please inform us of the businessmen you are comparing Trump to and their business records.
I'm...not comparing anybody? You're quoting the wrong person.
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I'm...not comparing anybody? You're quoting the wrong person.
Please inform us of the businessmen you think I am comparing Trump to and their business records.
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Old 09-27-2016, 06:26 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I'm...not comparing anybody? You're quoting the wrong person.
No I'm quoting you. You're saying he isn't a good businessman while not showing that you have an informed opinion on business at all. What reason is there to believe that you have an opinion worth hearing if the only opinion we really know you have on any one businessman is Trump?

For all we know you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
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Him being in the upper class though, he can get away with it. Sounds fair to me.
Wow, **** whoever thinks that. I'm with you on that one.

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"With the coverage from this election, this is a very bad idea."

Are we not talking about the debate?
I am talking about the media coverage in general.

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So, you're telling me a business man with no bankruptcies and a successful business plan is in the same realm as Donald Trump?
I've no idea what you're on about so I'll put my main point forward: I'm saying that I have one set of rules to decide what makes someone a good or a bad businessman. I don't have general rules and then a separate list of Donald Trump rules because that is irrational. I try not to consciously skirt being as objective as I can.
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Wow, **** whoever thinks that. I'm with you on that one.
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I am talking about the media coverage in general.
Fair enough. I misinterpreted your initial response then.

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I'm saying that I have one set of rules to decide what makes someone a good or a bad businessman. I don't have general rules and then a separate list of Donald Trump rules because that is irrational. I try not to consciously skirt being as objective as I can.
It may be irrational, but you can't put Donald Trump in the same list as someone who has grown a successful business from the ground up with no money to their name prior to starting their business. Donald Trump was born and raised into upper class.
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