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Old 06-30-2015, 08:41 PM   #81 (permalink)
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It's true, though, even if you get your guy in there that is genuinely fighting for your cause, you better hope he's a good BS'er. Else he doesn't have much to fight for your cause with.
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It's true, though, even if you get your guy in there that is genuinely fighting for your cause, you better hope he's a good BS'er. Else he doesn't have much to fight for your cause with.
Well, to gain the support of the swing voters I agree, but I wouldn't call it good. What I would call good is shutting down an opponent without resorting to BS. It shows their intelligence more and in a way makes them seem more genuine since they're using logic instead of trying to make their opponent look worse than them.

It's utopian, I know.
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Well, to gain the support of the swing voters I agree, but I wouldn't call it good. What I would call good is shutting down an opponent without resorting to BS. It shows their intelligence more and in a way makes them seem more genuine since they're using logic instead of trying to make their opponent look worse than them.

It's utopian, I know.
I was thinking more about when they get into office and are wheeling and dealing with whips and chairs and covenants that they have to compromise with to get anything done.
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Well, to gain the support of the swing voters I agree, but I wouldn't call it good. What I would call good is shutting down an opponent without resorting to BS. It shows their intelligence more and in a way makes them seem more genuine since they're using logic instead of trying to make their opponent look worse than them.

It's utopian, I know.
being able to win any argument logically isn't going to get you elected, you stale piece of unbuttered whitebread
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being able to win any argument logically isn't going to get you elected, you stale piece of unbuttered whitebread
Looks like you jumped the gun before reading my last sentence.
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so you think "good" politicians are politicians that as a general rule don't get elected?
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Yes.. they don't elect good people into office.
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i said good politicians.. not good people

get back in the cage bitch
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Sorry.

Yes... they don't elect good politicians into office.
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so you think "good" politicians are politicians that as a general rule don't get elected?
There's that strawman again, no wonder you're a Trump man.
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